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[–] 103 points 2 years ago (19 children)

They make $1.4B per day. This is basically just a cheap subscription for them

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  • [–] 108 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    For comparison, if you made $365,000 per year this would be the same as you paying 7 cents per day in a fine, or $25 per year.

    If a fine is less than the profit it is legal and the cost of doing business.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    Exactly right. Facebook will factor this in as am expected cost of doing business (if they didn’t already) and their stock will go up. This isn’t a penalty, this is just like paying a bribe. In the end, both are just lining the pockets of officials more interested in appearing to do something for the next news cycle so they can get re-elected.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Did you mean $365,000,000? Or did you get confused by the "."? Cause that's used as a comma for numbers in a lot of European countries, so it's $100k per day, not $100.

    Also, it'd be exactly 10 cents per day, since $365k per year would be $1k per day, which 100 is 10% of.

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  • [–] 67 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    From the article:

    $100,000 per day for a country with ~5.4 million people is a lot. If even 20 percent used Facebook regularly, then that would still be 10 cents per user per day. It's unlikely that Meta is generating so much profit per user - every day.

    This is a reasonable observation and I wonder what Meta would do once one of their services becomes unprofitable in a specific country. Anyway if you add Instagram and WhatsApp to the math, maybe they would still generate profits from the Norwegian userbase

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I wonder if this is a big amount for Norway's government. After 3 years you've got 100 million dollars. Not huge but you could build a nice hospital or something with that.

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  • [–] 48 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I don't know where you're getting that number but it's definitely wrong. Their most profitable year so far was 2021, and they made $39.4 billion for the entire year. Source

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    So assuming things haven't changed too much for them, this is about 1%. Barely noticeable.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I think the 2 points the article makes about that are pretty valid though. It's most probably more than Facebook's revenue in this single country plus it's just the beginning.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It must be nice to live in a country that actively protects its people.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I would love for the EU to just go all-out hardcore privacy protection and fine GAFAM et al. into fucking oblivion for not complying. If they shut down services, that's probably for the better, although it will be a rough awakening for most people (probably including myself)

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    But I really hope this sets a precedent for all other countries, need money to finance something? Just tax the shit out of Facebook. Of course it's a joke, we should properly tax them in the first place, or better yet force them not to exploit people data for profit

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    [–] 85 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Fines like these should be exponential in some way, that way they can't keep getting away with it.

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  • [–] 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Nah, exponentiation is too good for them.

    Fines should be tetrated.

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  • [–] 59 points 2 years ago

    Not enough. The price for violating a human right should be enough to leave anyone bankrupt.

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  • [–] 50 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Besides panicking a few regional managers, this can only be a bad news for Meta if other countries, or even better, the EU follows them.

    100kUSD/day for a 5.4M inhabitants country, that scales to 8.3M$/day for the total 450M inhabitants EU has (yes: I know that's not how it works, I'm doing a very gross approximation here).

    That's would be 3B$/year. Now we're talking!

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    [–] 46 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Meta was also recently ordered to pay a thousand dollars to every brazilian who can prove they were using Facebook in a specific year. Though they are still fighting back on that decision and no payment was made yet.

    This will probably be changed into some fixed payment to the government instead, if not overturned completely, but it would be fun to see the whole country getting some extra paychecks for using Facebook.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    This is exactly the sort of thing I want governments doing. Let bad businesses fail! Help them down the drain, even.

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    [+] 25 points 2 years ago (1 child)
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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    All the governments should do like this

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    For those who are dumb like I am, the fine is one hundred thousand per day and not one hundred per day (the decimal threw me off)

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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    Anti revenue stream.

    I likey

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I should visit Norway, sounds like there are cool people there.

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    [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    LOL. To put that in perspective, let imagine it's some $100,000 annual pay worker. This means Facebook just added 365 employees to their ranks, if they ignored this order completely.

    They fire and hire people in the thousands, the penalty is a joke of scale.

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  • Danegeld.

    Danegeld never changes.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    I wish WhatsApp get similar treatment also. the entirety of my country depend on it.

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