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[–] 155 points 2 years ago (6 children)

The idea came from a British guy called Robert Owen in the 19th century. It was a huge step forward in workers rights seeing as it was fairly normal for factories to work from sunrise to sunset to try and maximise their output.

Typical working hours were 10-18 hrs a day 6 to 7 days a week

I'm not saying I love working 8hrs a day and modern society can definitely do better but this was a positive step forward in history and should be celebrated... celebrated isn't quite the right word but I hope you get what I mean

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  • [–] 121 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, anyone calling the creator of the 40-hour work week "Satan" is obviously ignorant of the history of labour.

    As you said, we can definitely do better, but at the time it was (quite literally) revolutionary.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Reminded me of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvk_XylEmLo

    It is more made to debunk the idea that capitalism has given humanity more leisure time. But relevant here too because makes the case that historically people worked even less than the 'typical' week we have today.

    It makes me wonder if the reason we mostly feel like working 40+ hours is too much is because people really don't seem to have worked that much until the industrial age.

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    [–] 91 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

    Whoever invented the eight hour five day work week is Satan.

    Unions. Unions won the five day eight hour workweek after heavy, sometimes bloody conflicts with employers. Before that it was common for workweek to be 10 or 12 hours a day.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    God bless unions. Now can they negotiate a four day work week?

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    [–] 74 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Op, you don't seem aware that getting the work week down to this took a very concerted effort

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    We can keep applying yet more effort. This is better than 6 day work week, but we can do even better

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Sure, but it seems ignorant of said progress when op referred to it as created by Satan.

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  • [–] 66 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Keep in mind that once upon a time it was 6 days and 14 hours per day.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Keep in mind that before that, people worked much less in winter and still less than today in summer

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  • [–] 45 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Admittedly, they were completely at the mercy of disease, herd migration, had no plumbing, buried astounding numbers of their children, were not the apex predator, didn't have mattresses and when injuries happened they often healed poorly and painfully.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    And if I worked less hours in my office job, all that would return?

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  • [–] 56 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Labor unions are the Satan to which you are referring. Labor unions brought you many infernal things: the weekend, lunch breaks, paid vacation, social security, minimum wage, FMLA, 8-hour work days, OSHA, sick leave, child labor laws, etc.

    Satan indeed!

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    [–] 51 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The guy who made the 8hr/day 5day/week schedule was a saint

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    What a shitty take. Go learn what the normal conditions were BEFORE the 8/day 5/week standard.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Just because things were worse in the past doesn't mean they can't be better in the future.

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    [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Is anyone going to tell them what it was before?

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Greetings from Scotland, I'd gladly take a 40 minute workday 🤣

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    [–] 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    What? Here in India it's 12 hrs a day 7 days a week. One paid holiday per year, For the new year

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/07/india-debate-on-70-hour-workweek-illegal-or-road-to-greatness.html

    Indians currently work an average of 47.7 hours a week — higher than the U.S. (36.4), the UK (35.9), and Germany (34.4), according to the International Labour Organization.

    Infosys founder Narayana Murthy recently sparked a controversy on social media when he said young people should be working 70 hours a week to boost India’s economy.

    Perhaps it's common for the workweek to be that long in the informal economy, but the official data at least doesn't reflect that.

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It used to be dawn till dusk 6 days a week, bro.

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I live above the arctic circle, please don't make me work 24/7 during the summer since the sun is always out.

    I'd love the part where I wouldn't have to work November through January though.

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't want my work day tied to length of sunlight in either direction. But I do want a four day work week!

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    [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Rather, "whoever invented weekends was a genius."

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Yeah, I try to be grateful for the progress we have made, given that labor used to be even more exploitative than it is now. Still, we have miles to go.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    I am not a religious person, but I'm sure that 40 working hours per week is not even close to what is attributed to Satan.

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