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[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 64 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Almost $700,000,000 in revenue if you multiply the price by the amount sold.

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[+] jerrythegenius@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago* (7 children)

Keep in mind they probably spent more than that amount of money on R&D / aqua-hiring.

It's a lot of money, but still not enough to be a commercially successful product for at least a few more years.

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[–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

And you should keep in mind that these things are only sold in the USA at this point

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago*

I’d say that’s certainly enough to attract developers given it’s barely out.

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[–] maniacal_gaff@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (22 children)

I am insanely interested but the apple ecosystem sucks. I use a MacBook for work because it's that or Windows, but good lord do i hate the closed source walled garden. Linux at home ftw.

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[–] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 56 points 2 years ago (10 children)

MacOS is waaay better for that than iOS though. If you squint a little and try to stick to the CLI, you can pretend it's Linux.

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[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I LOVE LOVE LOVE how I can open the screen on my mac and immediately continue where I left off. I love how the entire laptop is made out of metal that doesn't bend or warp and whose hinge works today just like it did half a decade ago.

I hate everything else about the mac, especially how I have to pay inflated prices for everything. I hate even more about how fucking hard it is to get into the actual nitty gritty system settings on a mac. If I could find a reasonably priced laptop with great build quality and immediate boot, I'd throw my mac in the garbage or sell it off to someone else who would appreciate it much more.

I guess I dont really need to mention I'm poor. If I wasnt Id already have got a second laptop that ran not-macOS

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[–] vojel@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 2 years ago (4 children)

First reviews I saw on YouTube are quite disappointing. They really ship it with a powerbank and even without it this thing weights about 600 grams. I cannot imagine wearing this thing all day and do work or eh … what the fuck are you gonna do with this besides games and watching videos??

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[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I never knew so many people would buy an AR headset of apple.

[–] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I'm not surprised so many would buy it, but it surprised we reached this number before the first reviews. That a brand new line of product and I'm not even sure what people will use it for 😶

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[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago* (7 children)

Yea ... I personally don't get it ... but people are down for it.

The biggest example I've seen people excited about is office work ... instead of screens it's all just a VR. On which I'm expecting to see posts/blogs about why that doesn't work too well in the long term. I just don't see a big heavy thing on your face working out as a product. And while Apple may have done a lot of things well here, they haven't gotten around that essential problem it seems (??) and may have jumped the gun here out of desparation to find new product markets. For me this is a 50/50 as their first major flop in a while (does homepod count?)

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[+] scytale@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

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[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Maybe not hurt by 30m but you'd probably be fatigued.

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[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

I don't see it either... but everyone who's actually worn one seems to think it's a huge deal. Including people who own other headsets and never use them.

At this point, I'm willing to assume they're right. A bit like how phones were terrible until suddenly the technology improved a bit (better touch screens, faster CPUs, faster cellular networks, better cameras, better software...) and suddenly smartphones became awesome.

If Apple is onto something, other brands of headset will match them soon enough. They all have access to the same hardware suppliers, it's just a matter of putting it together and writing some decent software.

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[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The first testers already said it was too heavy to use for more than an hour, and certainly could not use this for the entire work day. It's certainly not a replacement for the current screens and desk.

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[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

Meh. Ride a bicycle for an hour, if you never do it, and your ass will hurt for days.

Ride a bicycle once a week for a little while... and it'll be perfectly comfortable no matter how long you sit on the seat. Your muscles will strengthen as necessary to compensate for the new load.

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[–] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Or like take office chairs: Sit in one for a few hours, you might start to feel sore. But sit in one for 8 hours a day for like 3 years, and you'll end up with excellent posture and limber hamstrings from all the practice you've gotten.

Pretty sure that's how it works, anyway.

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[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Porn?

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[–] GluWu@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

3D VR porn for head tracking is already widely for free all over the internet. Everything is setup and ready, just waiting for the influx of cash. There will be so much porn. So much money.

If I were still confident enough in myself to make erotic content, I would be all in on that right now.

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[–] june@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I thought the same thing when the Apple Watch first released. Smart watches had been around for a while, but they didn’t become prolific until Apple joined the party.

I don’t think Vision is going to be as prolific by any means, but I expect to see it fairly commonly in 5 years. The price will come down, the ecosystem will grow, and it’ll find its niche.

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[–] captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org 5 points 2 years ago

I would bet a lot of these purchases are people who are hoping to build something for it and cash in on the first wave of adopters. I know a lot of developers that have bought one as a business expense … or “business expense”.

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[–] ExLisper@linux.community 4 points 2 years ago

I’m not even sure what people will use it for

Bragging?

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[–] kambusha@feddit.ch 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I'm assuming the numbers must include retail stores purchasing the product to sell to their customers too? Or are these direct to consumer numbers only?

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[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I think many scalpers are in there too.

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[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

It requires a face scan from your iPhone or MacBook to order one.

I imagine that's going to make scalping harder?

Edit: not that they can't, but it wasn't bots buying it all.

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[–] electro1@infosec.pub 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

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[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

How's it any different than regular VR sets besides price? I don't own any apple stuff besides an iPad for my kid, but outside of the absurd cost I don't see the difference between this and the Index or something.

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[–] IronicDeadPan@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

Has anybody seen the movie WALL-E?

It's probably a bit of a stretch, but I feel like this is somehow the genesis/precursor of the hoverchairs that all the adults use for everything.

(God, I hope not.)

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[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Have you ever seen a group of 20something friends at dinner together where each person was on their phone ignoring the others? At least with the Apple headset they would be deliberate about their intentions.

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[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

These things somehow look even dumber than Google Glass, but Apple made them, so I guess they are the height of fashion now...

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (10 children)

I'm impressed. It speaks to the strength of the Apple brand. Meta should benefit if this becomes the next thing despite the differences.

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[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Hopefully it will push the AR/VR industry forward.

I’ve been expecting this to be the new iPhone in that I think it has the potential to transform consumer perceptions and the industry. I’m personally waiting for reviews and a hands on test because my eyesight is crap. If it makes it so I can use a non-blurry monitor (my vision isn’t correctable to the point that I can easily read a monitor, and I compensate by using the best and sharpest I can find), it would be life changing for me and easily worth the $4k or whatever the final cost is after taxes and lenses and such.

But, like with iPhone, I think it just gets better from here and that the use cases developed using the high end headset will cascade through the industry.