Omg I want to pillage it. I used the library for most of my textbooks and regret not also buying a cheap outdated copy. It's not like the principles of electricity or statics/dynamics were changing anytime in my lifetime
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if anything these textbooks wont help, if they constantly make new editions adding removing, content, or updating stem/or other research.
These might just be dissertations or bound volumes of old journals. Textbooks often have some cover art whereas a lot of these don't.
There's a lot of old paper that gets very rarely consulted.
Someone should rescue all those books and donate them to a good cause destructively scan them to feed AI models
That's honestly a good use case for out of date textbook which knowledge is not useful anymore.
No it isn't if it has potentially wrong conclusions corrected in later editions. Isn't that the sort of thing that contributes to hallucinations?
If properly annotated with dates, no. It's the stochastic nature of the models which cause hallucinations, they don't build a proper fact based worldview
Well... I thought out it as training data for LLM which are language model needinf thousand and thousand of example to articulate sentences. But you are right, it should not be use to train any knowledge model.
What university provides textbooks to students? Assuming this isn't AI generated, there is one text dated 1999 - that's way out of date for scientific texts.
Depends on the field, no? I am studying math as hobby and books from over a century ago do pretty well.
It really depends on the text. An intro thermodynamics textbook is going to still be fine. And some of my college courses were niche enough that we were using textbooks that were over a decade old. Though nearly 30 is pushing it
probably backstock from the store. Most of my professors expected every new class to re-buy the latest book for every class. The industry itself is rife with waste
Aberystwyth university has a building that's been abandoned by them for about a decade
This...looks very AI to me. Maybe it's not, but it just feels so uncanny.
Back when I was in school, me and my classmates were once tasked to help clear the old books from the library. There was a big dump truck under the library windows, and we were tasked to, essentially, throw books out of the window.
You can be damn sure I took some gems with me. Books should not end like this. But also, for a younger me, it was somewhat fun.
It's good to be suspicious.
The company name on the side of the skip does check out though (they even hire skips of the exact model shown), which is a big point for them being real photos:
Most do? There are higher concentrations of textbooks in some places like the library or bookstore, which do provide textbooks to students, but there will also be a ton of them spread throughout various offices and some classrooms. It's no surprise to me that they could fill multiple dumpsters with just textbooks.
Though hopefully they don't just trash all the furniture, as there could be millions worth of desks, chairs, tables, and shelving units, depending on how big the school is.
Textbooks are such a scam.. There should be a law that requires a way to do assignments without the stupid books. You used to be able to go to the library and look at the text books.. Now these stupid books have apps.
Sadly I think that reality is just an American one (I hope), in the UK I was either just given an old copy of the same textbook to keep or the ability to borrow it for the whole year from the library, depending on the book.
Depending on what exactly they are, these books may be practically worthless. I recently looked into selling some of my old college textbooks (that were $50-100 each at purchase), and they currently list online for <$5 each. Old editions are of no use to current students, and there's no demand for previous editions (while there's a good deal of supply).
It’s mostly to do with testing questions changing every year, and nothing else. Which is gross and reason 8114 that academic publishing companies should have their boards vivisected.
... I would so come with a truck and load up from that "dumpster dive". That is a lot of potentially golden knowledge - with an increasing AI and digital focus, suddenly such things are worth parsing through and preserving in some way.
Fuuuuck wish we were there rn we would grab so many books
Some textbooks might be still useful. I have several old math, physics, etc. books, they're still very useful.
The old reason to get a newer text book is that it's sometimes has a more clear explanation on a subject, or can include better diagrams and images. I remember looking at some older physics book and the info was so dense it made it hard to digest. This was ~2000 so books must have been from the 50s-70s
This is very rage bait.
I guarantee that pile of is 50 copies of the fifth edition and the only difference between the fourth and fifth edition is the introduction by the asshole who wrote it telling you they can’t believe they are on the fifth edition of the text book he wrote 25 years ago.
Would you mind crosspost this on !dumpsterdiving@slrpnk.net?
This is a very good content and work you're doing here. Some textbooks goes quickly out of date. After 3~5 years some aren't relevant enough to be still bought them rather that the last version so they cannot be handed down so much but a few hands down of a book can help so much financially. And there is still plenty of use for an out-of-date book.
I came across a similar sight once when I was at university. An old tenured professor had retired (or died) and they’d dumped his office in a bin like this. Was kinda sad to see. Especially the numerous phd thesis papers. I browsed a few. Many had been professionally bound and had sincere, handwritten inscriptions, thanking the professor for his guidance and advice, etc.
There was also hundreds of issues of a super old computing magazine that the guy had obviously subscribed to. I grabbed a couple for my coffee table cuz they’re retro and rad as hell. Someday I’ll take pics and post them to !computermag_covers@feddit.org
Jesus, in Wales too, they're usually pretty good for being incredibly pro-environment!
I think you should send this to your local papers tbh, shame the bastards into doing something good like recycling them or giving them to charity


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