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[–] 3 points 33 minutes ago

I have done heroin and I always thought that saying was dumb. Later I’d tell the kids I mentored in a drugs and alcohol program that what doesn’t kill you will likely leave you scarred, weaker, and/or in pain for the rest of your life.

I’m a big fan of try anything once though, probably how I got addicted to drugs in the first place. Not like ANYTHING, but like anything fun that isn’t fatal most of the time.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 hours ago

    Dude. Can you fight dragons without heroin? I think not.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 hours ago

    You either die from it or find the strength to overcome the addiction? Staying clean from heroin does require a lot of it

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  • [–] 14 points 13 hours ago

    People who unironically use that phrase are simpletons.

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  • [–] 8 points 12 hours ago (1 child)

    I've always gone with "whatever doesn't kill you makes you weaker and easier for the next thing to kill"

    Like forget heroin, have they heard of polio?

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  • [–] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 child)

    You don't get the saying. If you do heroin it kills you. Like even literally.

    If you can overcome the addiction, you will eventually come out stronger.

    It's not meant to be applied on an actionable scale, but rather on a strategic one. Kind of like "learn from your failures."

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  • [–] 1 point 27 minutes ago (1 child)

    Addiction can often lead to trauma, poverty, unwanted children, all sorts of degradation, so even if someone can overcome the obstacle of stopping that won’t necessarily make them stronger. They may even be weaker than they’ve ever been from the stress on their body and psyche.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 hours ago

    Either it kills them eventually or they find the strength to overcome it. Still fits.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 hours ago

    It's what the powerful say to the weak to convince them their suffering is somehow good for them.

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  • [–] 12 points 16 hours ago (1 child)

    I know technically you're right. But if you managed to come out the other end, as in, kick the addiction... Mentally the experience would probably toughen you up.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 hours ago

    I know one person that managed to kick heroin about 10 years ago now. They are one of the most head strong people I know now, with an enormous amount of drive to continuously improve their own life (they have since started a family, got a career, and just purchased a home recently).

    In their case, I would definitely say 'what doesn't kill you makes you stronger' holds true

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  • [–] 3 points 12 hours ago

    I assume those who do heroin do consider this, so yes.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 hours ago

    i thought heroin makes you stronger temporarily. maybe an addict.

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  • [–] 4 points 16 hours ago

    It worked for RFK Jr

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  • [–] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 child)

    I know it is patently untrue. My uncle died doing steroids.

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  • [–] 3 points 15 hours ago (1 child)

    How about losing an arm..... Or both? Can't see that making anyone stronger.

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  • [–] 2 points 16 hours ago

    Heroin kills you, though.

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  • [–] 0 points 16 hours ago (2 children)