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[–] 38 points 3 days ago (1 child)

I'm pretty sure anyone would give me weird stares if I used those words though.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 days ago*

    How else will they feel morally superior to other men without doing any internal work on their own? Gosh!

    Hahaha that’s the face I’m gonna picture they make every time moving forward.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 days ago

    I got accused of seeing everything through the lens of misogyny because I pointed out a trend in memes that portrays men as in the right/fun and women as in the wrong/boring. It's usually a thing you see in other social media, but so many people just say "it's not that deep" as a thought terminating cliche. It's just frustrating. I guess it's very human to be defensive about things. Egos protect. Like so many people just jump to "I'm not a misogynist" (or racist or homophobe etc.) when you point out that a thing they did is part of a bigger problem that is itself misogynistic (or racist or homophobic or whatever). It would be nice if we were all able to accept comments like that without taking them as an insult or an attack.

    But like I said, I think this is a very human behavior. I was talking about this on another thread that asked "do you admit when you're wrong" or something (I think it was a no stupid questions or an ask Lemmy thread). I'm not immune to it. I'm sure I do it without even realizing. It's why I try to be gentle when talking about things like this with folks to not trigger the defensiveness. (Small aside, I'm not saying I am gentle with people who are misogynists, I'm saying I'm gentle with people who may have done something misogynistic unintentionally that I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt while explaining why it could be construed as misogynistic.)

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  • [–] 17 points 3 days ago

    I literally just came across one of these the other day, it's fucking infuriating.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    I usually try to break down the source of their 'fears', then try to dismantle it patiently, eg if they're afraid of them queers etc., ask if they've ever met one, and would like to learn to understand it better. Asking, without judging much in their face. It's tiring though, but I feel it helps in them turning from "passive ally" to "active ally", by lack of a better word.

    But the way I look at it, all that contributes to spreading awareness and pushing back on hatred, helps. Negativity helps in futility, futility creates lack of action. So I try to look at what has improved.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 days ago

    I'm glad there are others taking the time and patience to work through some of this with them! I have more patience on some days than others haha. And sometimes I feel pure resentment and rage when it feels like I have a moral obligation to meet these men at their level to help guide them to supporting us the way they THINK they do already.

    I save my gentle guidance for my child and his peers now.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 days ago

    The heteropatriarchal conditioning and privilege is strong here. But, to be fair, I'm staring right back in disgust.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago

    Still busy critically examining the other shampoo ingredients

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