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[–] 133 points 1 month ago (5 children)

wasn’t that 4chan in general, it’s fun to post far right memes and jokes until the actual far right shows up and doesn’t know the difference

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Mostly started very quickly in 2015.

    I wonder how hard it is to infiltrate and influence an anonymous message board.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    Pretty much my trajectory for making Nazi jokes. Used to be fun and edgy when I was younger, but once I found out there were actual Nazis these days, it was horrifying.

    I can see why people stick to Roman jokes

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Yeah, this doesn't excuse anything, but as a millennial growing up there was this whole trend of "dark humor" and "anti-jokes." Basically the more fucked up and wrong something was, the funnier it was supposed to be.

    That doesn't make it okay, but we were just stupid teenagers. You could say we shoulda known better, but at the time that was just the trend. Like skibidi toilet and other brainrot today. Everyone knew it wasn't serious, that no one could actually mean those jokes.

    At least, we thought we did. It seems as we grew up, we diverged into two main groups. Those who realized how those "jokes" could actually be harmful and grew out of it, and those who started taking the jokes more and more seriously until they started meaning it and it became part of their personalities.

    I think that's a huge source of disconnect with Gen Z. I don't think they ever had a concept of dark humor. By the time they reached that age, the trend was more towards acceptance and inclusion, social awareness and non-harmful language. The old "sticks and stones" no longer applied.

    So to early Gen Z, late Millennials probably looked like sociopaths. Especially since we were already on social media, and some of that immature bullshit is indelibly marked on the internet.

    And you can't just tell them "it was just a joke, we didn't mean it, it wasn't serious" because that's such an alien concept to them.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    Something similar happened to me once, ended up sharing something that I figured was satire and antifa, then it did end up in fact being satire but also nazi. Basically everyone thought it was on their side, correct or not.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    That's why I don't engage with that stuff. I understand shitposting, but not everyone can tell the difference. Especially if a bot is scraping to train a model or build a profile on users.

    This is why the /s is important. It should always be explicitly clear when a post is satire, if being taken seriously could be harmful.

    That's why I hate it when people say "chill, it's just a shitpost, it's not that deep." Like, this is how disinformation spreads...

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  • [–] 110 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Me in 2015 reddit in the_Donald Subreddit thought they were shitposting sarcasm but no. It was a coordinated Russian intelligence campaign to fuck with retarded voters

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  • [–] 57 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Same here. I learned about Flat Earthers, and assumed they were sarcastic, like Birds aren't Real. Took me two years of occasionally coming across their shit to realize they were serious. I was flabbergasted.

    That's when I started to understand how stupid people can be. They can be all the stupid, and in unsettling numbers.

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    [–] 51 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    There's a subreddit called TrumpZone or something like that that I joined because of all the over the top bootlicking memes. It took a few days before I realized that the memes weren't being posted ironically and the members really were batshit crazy.

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    [–] 47 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago*

    I think it was either a Miniminuteman or a Folding Ideas video that showed what some flatties proposed: the Sun moves in a wacky repeating spiral pattern above the surface. It's closer to the Arctic during summer and to the Antarctic during winter, which they claim to explain the different angles of incidence. Obviously that doesn't conform to any physical laws... observed phenomena... ideas that a person of ordinary intelligence might come up with... their own models of flat Earth... but flatties are nothing if not persistent in their dogmatic rejection of reality.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Their worldview is heavily built around Christian magic nonsense: The sky is a dome (firmament). Gravity doesn't exists, it's just buoyancy. They probably assume wind currents change and blow the cold off the icewall surrounding the world edge...

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    [–] 30 points 1 month ago

    A lot of groups take advantage of shitposters in this way. Oh woe is me.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    This is why i dont like or support shit posting. FAR TOO MANY people simply can not understand.

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    [–] 14 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Flat-earth shitposters and actual flat-earthers may have their differences, but at least they can all agree that Apollo 11 was staged

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago

    ....did the friend know too?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    This is why in many native cultures they stay away from being sarcastic. They've learned that it can be harmful to a society and they have the empathy to not want to make certain people who are out of the loop feel dumb

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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