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[–] 121 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I have no interest in watching his video but I also have no interest in further reading the article when it talks about Nixon and his "graceful exit".

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  • [–] 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I mean, just the timeline shows that whoever was putting this together (Politico and NYT) had the main concern of getting Platner to drop out

    They didn't care about the story, they didn't investigate anything to find the truth, they didn't even chase ratings.

    They just kept dropping bombs a week before he could be forced out.

    Doesn't mean he's innocent, if anything it means there needs to be an investigation into all of it. But the only way that would have happened was if Planter stayed in, won, and then had an investigation done himself.

    Now that he's dropped no one is going to look into any of it, in a month he won't be in any headlines or mentioned again.

    Depending on who replaces him is what may make it a big deal long term.

    But the NYT just smacked down a progressive who was vocally against Israel, if it worked once the oligarchs will keep doing it. A senate seat is too important for them to just not try.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

    You think no investigation happened at all?

    Look, there's room to talk about the best way forward and it sucks, this really, really sucks that Platner couldn't live up to what we all had hoped. But we can have those discussions without victim blaming and indulging in conspiracy theories too much.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    You think no investigation happened at all?

    I, for on, don't have a bottomless well of trust for pro-Israel establishment media.

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    [–] 47 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    I dunno what they're expecting. He said the allegations were false. Why would he do that and then give "contrition and humility" to the people that supposedly made horrendous false allegations against him that torpedoed his career?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (42 children)

    What's crazy is everyone acting like he was "forced" to do this.

    Dude could have 100% just stayed in the race, no one had the authority to make him drop out.

    If he was half the monster the media has been wanting us to believe he is, he definitely would have stayed in the race, and no one could have done anything about it.

    He got Franklen'd

    Edit:

    Chuck Schumer did say he'd cut of DSCC support...

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dscc-says-it-will-pull-funding-from-maine-senate-race-if-platner-doesn-t-drop-out/ar-AA27lokf

    For those who don't know DSCC is what Schumer and the neoliberals still control after losing the DNC, it's really not that important, but it's wild so many accounts are suddenly showing up on Schumer and Israel's side on this.

    Even if they just fell for the propaganda, it's not a good sign for midterms they were fooled so easily, and since it worked it's going to be more prevelent.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 weeks ago

    If he was half the monster the media has been wanting us to believe he is, he definitely would have stayed in the race, and no one could have done anything about it. He got Franklen'd

    Franken was not credibly accused of rape and sexual sexual assaults...... Maybe he stopped because if he didn't there would actually be a criminal investigation. You know, because of the crimes?

    Just the fact that he re-enlisted twice to go to unjust wars and then signed up to be a mercenary makes him a monster. The rape and Nazi tattoo just adds more fuel to an already burning pile of shit.

    many accounts are suddenly showing up on Schumer and Israel's side on this.

    People have been saying this shit for over a year. You just claim anyone who disagrees with your terrible takes have fallen for propaganda.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Fuck Schumer, fuck the DNC and fuck all the idiots that thought it was a good idea to run a guy that had a Nazi tattoo on his chest for 18 years as a progressive.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children)

    He was also a guard at Abu Ghraib... during the torture and systematic sexual assaults. And then he joined up with blackwater because he hadn't had enough killing.

    But hey! Anti-establishment hero, amirite?!?!? Real shame there was a concentrated smear campaign run on a politician in an important race. Damn you secret establishment cabal!

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child)

    It goes deeper than that because the person who's accusing him stated plainly that he was actually blackout drunk when the incident occurred and that he didn't remember it the next morning.

    Though I got to say for me, my doubt about him came several weeks ago when it was revealed that he had a Kik account he had been using up till less than a year ago that he was using to meet women. And if you know anything about Kik, you know that's a very concerning thing. People use that platform are not good people.

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  • [–] 43 points 2 weeks ago

    Spends an entire lifetime as a rightwing, establishment enforcing chud. Spends six months pretending none of that ever happened so that he can become a senator with zero relevant experience. ‘I believe him.’

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  • [–] 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    What a shitty article. This person probably nods their head smugly when he hears Schumer is sending a strongly worded letter to donald

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  • [–] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    When Platner observed, “we live in a political system that is not built for normal people”, the implication was that he is a normal person, which the shenanigans of recent months have comprehensively disproved.

    Even if you don't think Platner is a normal person, you can't deny that he appealed to a lot of normal people. But then, maybe "normal" just isn't a useful adjective. I don't know. Of course, Platner doesn't necessarily have to be a normal person himself for the statement to be true. Platner can be abnormal and we can live in a political system that is not built for normal people. It can also be true that liberal elites have a general disdain for "normal" people. Or at least they have disdain for the voters who find uncouth, crass, ill-mannered populists appealing. Whether or not those voters are "normal" is a matter of debate, I suppose. But if they're not normal, who is? And even if the populists aren't "normal," they still exist. In the millions. Ignorant, unrefined and problematic they may be, they exist. In this society, with you. What will the liberal elites do about them? They've tried snark and condescension, but for some reason it just hasn't worked.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    He appealed to a lot of credulous, and hopeful people. On the one hand, I don't blame them, because people need hope. On the other hand, come the fuck on. Stop believing everything nice that someone says! This dude said all the right things, but his past actions were all red flags. Yes, people can learn and change, but it takes more than words to demonstrate that change.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Can you guys not bring in another proper progressive and have another primary?

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