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[–] 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

I mean, just the timeline shows that whoever was putting this together (Politico and NYT) had the main concern of getting Platner to drop out

They didn't care about the story, they didn't investigate anything to find the truth, they didn't even chase ratings.

They just kept dropping bombs a week before he could be forced out.

Doesn't mean he's innocent, if anything it means there needs to be an investigation into all of it. But the only way that would have happened was if Planter stayed in, won, and then had an investigation done himself.

Now that he's dropped no one is going to look into any of it, in a month he won't be in any headlines or mentioned again.

Depending on who replaces him is what may make it a big deal long term.

But the NYT just smacked down a progressive who was vocally against Israel, if it worked once the oligarchs will keep doing it. A senate seat is too important for them to just not try.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

    You think no investigation happened at all?

    Look, there's room to talk about the best way forward and it sucks, this really, really sucks that Platner couldn't live up to what we all had hoped. But we can have those discussions without victim blaming and indulging in conspiracy theories too much.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    You think no investigation happened at all?

    I, for on, don't have a bottomless well of trust for pro-Israel establishment media.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I, for one, don’t have a bottomless well of trust for men with admitted alcohol problems and violent tendencies and a history of victim blaming.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Oh God forbid people become better.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    They can, but they don't get the benefit of the doubt. Increased scrutiny is one of the consequences for their actions. If they can't understand that and deal with it then they're still a shitty person.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I'd like y'all to direct some of that scrutiny at Janet Mills too.

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    Where did he get better? When? What has he done in the last 5 years that show he got better?

    Because all I see is a lot of denial and blaming everyone else but himself.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Uh... run for election on a platform of anti-imperialism and anti-Zionism?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Seeking power isn’t a restitution move.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Okay what would you consider "showing that he got better?" That a person became nicer doesn't tend to make the news.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    Restorative justice isn't just being "nicer".

    Encounter is the starting point, a facilitated meeting that brings together people most impacted by crime to determine how to repair harm. Encounters start with an invitation, and all parties participate voluntarily. There are three keys to effective encounters.

    Before offenders can participate, they must take responsibility for their wrong and want to make amends.

    All stakeholders impacted by the wrongdoing—victims, offenders, and community members—have a voice in the justice process.

    Meetings that are encounters occur in safe spaces, foster vulnerability, and include free sharing without judgment.

    Maybe you victim blamers can learn a little bit about restorative justice and what Platner should've done if he actually wanted to repent.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Yes, I think no investigation happened at all. Not one iota.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago*

    I wanted Platner to be the guy because I do think in this moment, he would have won.

    But I know first hand how traditional newspaper legal sourcing and corroboration works (yes, for all they are hateable for other reasons, that includes the NYT). Once you know how careful they are with sources, because the potential exists for even a single defamation lawsuit to utterly bankrupt the company, then you know the details in that article are both credible and passing those checks would not have been fakeable without an incredibly elaborate conspiracy.

    That doesn't mean the allegations are true, but I believe it's likely they are true.

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