How can we make that sooner?
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Oh boy, I can't wait for my tax dollars to go to bailing them out instead of food and healthcare
Don't worry, we can't bail them out this time. There's just not enough money, each bailout is exponentially bigger than the last one and this time the bubble is bigger than the rest of the global economy
We'll probably destroy the global economy buying them just a few more months anyways though
It's also arguably the only thing propping up the American economy right now. They don't have anything to bail with, if the AI bubbles goes on fire. Their economy may well come tumbling down in short order.
Better start preparing to grind the economy to a halt when they try it. This time any occupy Wall Street movements should be heavily armed and wearing plate carriers
Maybe Americans are finally going to use their second amendment for the intended purpose?
How can we make them run out in mid-2026?
I was under the impression that they had an extremely large amount of negative money.
If Skyrim has taught me anything it's probably integer overflow
Let the internet do what it does best, create all kinds of weird and unnecessary porn. That should do it.
While I agree with not buying being better that giving them money. I can't agree with leadership being smart.
This thing was never going to be profitable. So they either:
a) they're actively malicious — they were never planning on profiting which means this is basically a pump and dump scheme capable of triggering some form of recession;
b) they're fucking morons for believing their own fantasies, which judging by their public appearances would track.
Former seems just as plausible, but my bet is on the latter. These AI bro CEOs seem to be woefully average at best.
Counterpoint:
They already are losing money. They themselves do not project that they will be profitable until 2030. The idea that "smart people with spreadsheets won't let them lose money" is obviously wrong because they have done nothing except lose money, ever.
They get thier operating capital from funding, not sales.
Now, I agree that the gambit is wrong. So you're right. You're just right for the wrong reason.
Funding is just the cash value of market optimism for the future of your product. High usage props up optimism. Social media IPOs were valued very much based on active users, the idea being that more users meant more opportunity for profit.
The more people actively using these tools, even if they're just maliciously burning tokens, just add to the "active users" metric. Which makes funding easier. And funding is the ACTUAL way these companies "make thier money".
Despite the popular fantasy, the rich and powerful are not stupid.
Uh... famously untrue. Mental illness has plagued monarchs, pharaohs, and caesers for millennia. That's long before you get to all the quirked up white boys and trad rad girl bosses currently running things.
You don’t know more about a company or market from passively consuming headlines than the leadership of that company.
Okay, but you can review their balance sheets and their primary lines of credit. Case in point, Sam Altman is heavily reliant on three big financial partners - Softbank, Oracle, and NVIDIA. Two of these are - themselves - hemorrhaging money thanks to large capital outlays that have failed to produce substantive returns.
There are finance journalists who get out ahead of this and report their own analysis. And you can find that in a thousand different private journals, substacks, and podcasts. But you can also go do the grunt work yourself if you're ambitious.
OpenAI's financials have been disclosed already (although the official SEC filing is still upcoming). So... just read them if you doubt what you're reading in the news. But it's not some kind of secret that the business is operating at a loss, with a fixation on debt-fueled growth. The argument is over future projected revenue, which isn't something business leadership can be any more certain of than a passive media consumer.
I definitely get the knee-jerk impulse to announce "business professionals know more about business than internet idiots". Because, sure. True. But the idea that business professionals don't routinely make bad decisions has some pretty historic well-established counterpoints.
"The business people know more" line is akin to saying "This used car dealer must know more about the vehicles on his lot than I do, so I can trust him".
Yes but you have forgotten about the technique used by the most skilled and intelligent company leaders to consistently outperform all predictions for years now: Corruption
Step one: make thing
Step two: make everyone hate that thing
Step three: call it “too big to fail” and force you to pay for thing you hate with your taxes
I will happy when this bubble bursts. OpenAI, Grok and several other companies offer nothing substantive and if they're burning cash and disrupting economies then just die already.
How can I help speed this up?
Any chance of a bunch of used gpus getting sold off from this?
Unfortunately they would broadly be systems that need about 15kw, and as part of a board that won't work as discrete parts.
So you get it, but you'll need a couple of 60 amp circuits to dedicate to it... Also you have no viable video out
Doesn’t matter. The regime got what they wanted out of this. The data centers are up, the tech is there, they will just snap it up cheap for use in surveillance and fabricating evidence of dissenters.
The data centres are far from up. Many of them look to have a few steel beams in place and that's it. Others are sitting empty due to lack of hardware or lack of power.
Lemmy, this is the fourth year in a row that "OpenAI bankrupts soon" articles are being posted:
| Year | Article | Explicit bankruptcy claim |
|---|---|---|
| 2023 | Business Today — “OpenAI might go bankrupt by end of 2024”, August 12, 2023 | OpenAI could go bankrupt by the end of 2024 because of ChatGPT’s high operating costs, mounting losses and dependence on continued Microsoft funding. |
| 2024 | ITPro — “OpenAI could go bankrupt in 12 months if it doesn’t raise some serious cash”, August 7, 2024 | OpenAI could go bankrupt within twelve months unless it secured substantial additional financing. |
| 2025 | Braden Kelley — “Is OpenAI About to Go Bankrupt?”, December 4, 2025 | The article explicitly asks whether OpenAI is “on the brink of bankruptcy” and argues that its spending and business model may be financially unsustainable. |
| 2026 | Windows Central — “OpenAI might torch $14 billion in 2026, hitting bankruptcy by next year”, January 20, 2026 | OpenAI could burn through approximately $14 billion during 2026 and face bankruptcy by mid-2027. |
OpenAI isn't going anywhere.
Because they really should be failing. These companies are leveraging against themselves and getting propped up by the government.
They will get bailed out just like 2008 to avoid a cataclysmic global financial meltdown. I won’t be surprised if other countries chip in to bail them out.
It will be a race which AI company holds out longest. All of them are making losses that no company can survive, and if they rise their prices enough to cover the costs, they will basically lose all their customers. Who will then struggle to hire the people back who still know how to do things without AI.
Some big company would invest in openai to keep the bubble alive.
That's how they've been operating for years. They'll go public soon enough though, so your 401k will take the hit instead of the parasites on top.
That's what the SpaceX IPO was about. They were listed on the NASDAQ way earlier than companies are normally allowed to be so the assholes up top could raid your retirement fund despite there being no path to profitability.
I can’t fathom how people actually contribute to a 401k when it’s run by Wall Street ghouls that stole everyone’s money 20 years ago and never suffered any consequences for it…
Oh no. That is another whole year to wait.
Q3 2027 is when the house of cards falls. I have been saying this since 2025 and I will continue to make this prediction based off of loan and investment terms.
That long? Sigh…
He’ll probably tell Trump he’ll help win the election and get all sorts of tax payer handouts.
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