Seems like something that WFH would solve without having to upend so many employee lives.

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[–] 184 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

A decade ago, a lot of folks would probably seriously consider this. Austin is a rad town and cost of living is cheaper than San Diego. Now moving to Texas could put you at significant risk if you’re a woman.

Apple, a company that likes to value diversity and inclusion, is apparently fine with putting its female employees in harm’s way for a tax break.

Of all the shit Apple has done, this is particularly disturbing.

Edit: Took a few more minutes to look into this, and it appears that Apple covers travel and medical expenses for women that have to travel out of state for care. Although, forcing someone into that position to keep their job is pretty douchey.

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  • [–] 67 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Austin isn't even that much cheaper and property tax in TX is heinous compared to CA.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    all the tech companies should move to another smaller city in a blue state all at once. turn Salem OR or something into the next big tech hub

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Or build a blue city on the triple-border of South Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming. Property is crazy cheap there. It's the perfect place for a big "blue utopia" city.

    Because of those states' small population, just a small number of Democratic votes there could yield three states' electoral votes and six senators.

    Republicans would lose forever if Democrats didn't gerrymander themselves into the coasts.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    austin is crazy expensive now. it was already starting to get that way when i lived there ~ 25 years ago.

    and i'd pick the san diego climate any day over anywhere in texas.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Even covering expenses still puts women's lives at risk.

    Sure if you get pregnant and early on decide you want one, they can help out, AFTER you divulge very private information.

    But what about all the myriad of other scenarios where people need medical abortions in life threatening situations. You don't always have the time to get yourself to another state, and then you die, or lose the ability to get pregnant again.

    Sure its nice they offer it, but fuck them for putting women in that situation anyway. They don't get a pass for covering costs when they can.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Edit: Took a few more minutes to look into this, and it appears that Apple covers travel and medical expenses for women that have to travel out of state for care. Although, forcing someone into that position to keep their job is pretty douchey.

    And when the Texas government arrests them to keep them from traveling for an abortion, Apple will break them out of jail?

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    [+] 84 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)
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    [–] 66 points 2 years ago

    This is what a stealth layoff looks like folks.

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  • [–] 55 points 2 years ago

    This is becoming a larger and larger ask as the states drift further apart in terms of rights.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Don’t move, don’t quit. Make them fire you.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    No one from California wants to move to Texas.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Its slowing down recently but in 2021 and 2022 it was a very popular topic and many people did move from CA to TX.

    https://blog.smu.edu/dedmancollege/2022/09/12/why-are-californians-moving-to-texas-and-how-that-might-change-the-state/

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago*

    And guess what happened in 23? A LOT of those people came RIGHT back to California lol

    Perfect example: https://www.businessinsider.com/couple-moved-california-texas-back-santa-cruz-rosenberg-2023-11?op=1

    Looking at census data: https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/california-exodus-census-analysis-18509264.php

    California was one of 11 states whose inmigration rate was lower than the national migration average of 19.9%. The data says that many of the people (44,279) who moved to California last year came from Texas. The second-highest number of people (31,225) who moved from a different state to California came from New York.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Well, lots of people move to Texas from all kinds of states. You could make an article about each one if you tried. Also, people are moving to California from Texas—and everywhere else. You could write an article about each of those places if you tried.

    My point is, people who bleed blue don’t move to Texas unless they have to. And, with recent politics, Texas is a much harder pill to swallow for anyone left of center.

    I’m sure the lefties in California would love to get rid of the righties. Maybe they could make a 1:1 trade, lefties for righties.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The Central Valley disagrees.

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    San Diego is one of the biggest major cities with a Republican Majority and it’s in Cali. Now considering these are tech workers they may care, but I’ve worked with my fair share of tech libertarians. Especially here in Cali.

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    [–] 32 points 2 years ago

    Ffs tech workers need to unionize and fast.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Apple supports anti-abortion misogyny, the murder of immigrants crossing the border, and a deterioration of employee rights for profit. This is the safest conclusion.

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    If they're using this as a method to get employees to quit, then it's gonna suck for the few that do move

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    “Asks”? So they can just say “no thank you” and keep their jobs?

    No?

    Then asks is not the right word.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    I'm just shocked to learn that Siri has (had) a quality control team.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The company reportedly told employees they can apply for other jobs within the company, though some doubt they’re qualified for other Apple roles in the city, and most don’t plan to move.

    Sounds like it's QA people. Which sucks extra hard cause that's a much harder field to get another job in. If they were software engineers, the world would be their oysters. I bet a lot of people will make the move and it's quite shitty and cynical from apple to move a team that doesn't have a lot of options.

    If they tried to move an engineering team to texas, they know they'd get told to get fucked

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago*

    Apple likes the labor laws in Texas that allows them to screw their employees over when they feel like it

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    And so begins (continues?) the enshittification of Apple. Siri is dumb as a bag of rocks. These people should all get raises.

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