Seems like something that WFH would solve without having to upend so many employee lives.

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[–] 184 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

A decade ago, a lot of folks would probably seriously consider this. Austin is a rad town and cost of living is cheaper than San Diego. Now moving to Texas could put you at significant risk if you’re a woman.

Apple, a company that likes to value diversity and inclusion, is apparently fine with putting its female employees in harm’s way for a tax break.

Of all the shit Apple has done, this is particularly disturbing.

Edit: Took a few more minutes to look into this, and it appears that Apple covers travel and medical expenses for women that have to travel out of state for care. Although, forcing someone into that position to keep their job is pretty douchey.

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  • [–] 67 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Austin isn't even that much cheaper and property tax in TX is heinous compared to CA.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Not cheaper at all, actually. They only discuss income tax when folks claim that.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Also, the topic was taxes, not cost of living. But it is understandable that when folks can't justify their bias they simply shift the goal posts.

    Pay is higher in CA so that isn't the smug data point you thought it was.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    The topic was cost of living. Then someone mentioned it AND taxes. Then this person replied to the cost of living part.

    Seems weird to read this conversation and see the claim bias and goalpost moving. They very clearly are not shifting anything.

    Also you're making a pretty wild assumption that by stating facts with evidence that they're "biased". Don't be that guy/girl. I hate it when conservatives do that too.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Average monthly salary in the cities is listed at the bottom of that link I gave. The two cities differ in monthly salary by $14 dollars on average, per the available data. Those same submissions show that the cost of living is ~20% higher in San Diego than Austin.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Not relevant as the topic is IT at Apple and not folks at McDonalds as well as being about Taxes for the Company. The Company cares not one whit for the CoL of their Employees except when it affects the quality.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    all the tech companies should move to another smaller city in a blue state all at once. turn Salem OR or something into the next big tech hub

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Or build a blue city on the triple-border of South Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming. Property is crazy cheap there. It's the perfect place for a big "blue utopia" city.

    Because of those states' small population, just a small number of Democratic votes there could yield three states' electoral votes and six senators.

    Republicans would lose forever if Democrats didn't gerrymander themselves into the coasts.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    austin is crazy expensive now. it was already starting to get that way when i lived there ~ 25 years ago.

    and i'd pick the san diego climate any day over anywhere in texas.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Even covering expenses still puts women's lives at risk.

    Sure if you get pregnant and early on decide you want one, they can help out, AFTER you divulge very private information.

    But what about all the myriad of other scenarios where people need medical abortions in life threatening situations. You don't always have the time to get yourself to another state, and then you die, or lose the ability to get pregnant again.

    Sure its nice they offer it, but fuck them for putting women in that situation anyway. They don't get a pass for covering costs when they can.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Edit: Took a few more minutes to look into this, and it appears that Apple covers travel and medical expenses for women that have to travel out of state for care. Although, forcing someone into that position to keep their job is pretty douchey.

    And when the Texas government arrests them to keep them from traveling for an abortion, Apple will break them out of jail?

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