▲ 225 ▼ Apple asks its San Diego Siri quality control team to relocate to Texas (www.theverge.com) submitted 2 years ago by flop_leash_973@lemmy.world to c/apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world 77 comments fedilink hide all child comments Seems like something that WFH would solve without having to upend so many employee lives.
[–] Alto@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) If they were software engineers, the world would be their oysters. Not with all the layoffs lately. https://layoffs.fyi permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Go check out the net jobs over last year. Reality is all that happened is the folks let go work elsewhere for better companies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Very anecdotal, but I’m rather skeptical of that. Where I work, we haven’t hired in more than a year despite some decent growth. Seems to be quite similar for most of my circles, very little movement and hiring gojng on. I used to get harassed by recruiters 5-10x a week on LinkedIn alone despite being employed and listed as unavailable. Now it’s more like a cold message or two a month. Maybe it’s regional or something…? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Net 700 IT job gains in 2023 as all the positions cut did was move chairs between buildings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alto@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You should probably go look at what the historical numbers are for that. Far more than 700 people entered the IT workforce last year permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) And yet there was a NET (please look the definition up) job increase. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alto@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) And if you'd actually go look at data from before 2023, you'll see that's the lowest it's been in over a decade by well over 100k jobs. But yeah everything's dandy if you just ignore reality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago And it is easier to argue against claims no one made. Data before 2023 isn't relevant as the thread is about the Lay Offs in 2023. So kindly shove your moved goal post back from whence you pulled it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago* That number alone isn’t particularly telling. What were those IT jobs? Did we lose a bunch of programmers and software architects and gained T1 support roles? Permanent vs contractual? What percentage had a pay cut/raise? How many people entered the workforce (graduated, new hires) vs how many left (retired or career change) this year? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Go check out the net jobs over last year. Reality is all that happened is the folks let go work elsewhere for better companies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Very anecdotal, but I’m rather skeptical of that. Where I work, we haven’t hired in more than a year despite some decent growth. Seems to be quite similar for most of my circles, very little movement and hiring gojng on. I used to get harassed by recruiters 5-10x a week on LinkedIn alone despite being employed and listed as unavailable. Now it’s more like a cold message or two a month. Maybe it’s regional or something…? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Net 700 IT job gains in 2023 as all the positions cut did was move chairs between buildings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alto@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You should probably go look at what the historical numbers are for that. Far more than 700 people entered the IT workforce last year permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) And yet there was a NET (please look the definition up) job increase. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alto@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) And if you'd actually go look at data from before 2023, you'll see that's the lowest it's been in over a decade by well over 100k jobs. But yeah everything's dandy if you just ignore reality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago And it is easier to argue against claims no one made. Data before 2023 isn't relevant as the thread is about the Lay Offs in 2023. So kindly shove your moved goal post back from whence you pulled it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago* That number alone isn’t particularly telling. What were those IT jobs? Did we lose a bunch of programmers and software architects and gained T1 support roles? Permanent vs contractual? What percentage had a pay cut/raise? How many people entered the workforce (graduated, new hires) vs how many left (retired or career change) this year? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Very anecdotal, but I’m rather skeptical of that. Where I work, we haven’t hired in more than a year despite some decent growth. Seems to be quite similar for most of my circles, very little movement and hiring gojng on. I used to get harassed by recruiters 5-10x a week on LinkedIn alone despite being employed and listed as unavailable. Now it’s more like a cold message or two a month. Maybe it’s regional or something…? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Net 700 IT job gains in 2023 as all the positions cut did was move chairs between buildings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alto@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You should probably go look at what the historical numbers are for that. Far more than 700 people entered the IT workforce last year permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) And yet there was a NET (please look the definition up) job increase. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alto@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) And if you'd actually go look at data from before 2023, you'll see that's the lowest it's been in over a decade by well over 100k jobs. But yeah everything's dandy if you just ignore reality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago And it is easier to argue against claims no one made. Data before 2023 isn't relevant as the thread is about the Lay Offs in 2023. So kindly shove your moved goal post back from whence you pulled it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago* That number alone isn’t particularly telling. What were those IT jobs? Did we lose a bunch of programmers and software architects and gained T1 support roles? Permanent vs contractual? What percentage had a pay cut/raise? How many people entered the workforce (graduated, new hires) vs how many left (retired or career change) this year? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Net 700 IT job gains in 2023 as all the positions cut did was move chairs between buildings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alto@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You should probably go look at what the historical numbers are for that. Far more than 700 people entered the IT workforce last year permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) And yet there was a NET (please look the definition up) job increase. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alto@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) And if you'd actually go look at data from before 2023, you'll see that's the lowest it's been in over a decade by well over 100k jobs. But yeah everything's dandy if you just ignore reality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago And it is easier to argue against claims no one made. Data before 2023 isn't relevant as the thread is about the Lay Offs in 2023. So kindly shove your moved goal post back from whence you pulled it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago* That number alone isn’t particularly telling. What were those IT jobs? Did we lose a bunch of programmers and software architects and gained T1 support roles? Permanent vs contractual? What percentage had a pay cut/raise? How many people entered the workforce (graduated, new hires) vs how many left (retired or career change) this year? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alto@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You should probably go look at what the historical numbers are for that. Far more than 700 people entered the IT workforce last year permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) And yet there was a NET (please look the definition up) job increase. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alto@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) And if you'd actually go look at data from before 2023, you'll see that's the lowest it's been in over a decade by well over 100k jobs. But yeah everything's dandy if you just ignore reality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago And it is easier to argue against claims no one made. Data before 2023 isn't relevant as the thread is about the Lay Offs in 2023. So kindly shove your moved goal post back from whence you pulled it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) And yet there was a NET (please look the definition up) job increase. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alto@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) And if you'd actually go look at data from before 2023, you'll see that's the lowest it's been in over a decade by well over 100k jobs. But yeah everything's dandy if you just ignore reality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago And it is easier to argue against claims no one made. Data before 2023 isn't relevant as the thread is about the Lay Offs in 2023. So kindly shove your moved goal post back from whence you pulled it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alto@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) And if you'd actually go look at data from before 2023, you'll see that's the lowest it's been in over a decade by well over 100k jobs. But yeah everything's dandy if you just ignore reality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago And it is easier to argue against claims no one made. Data before 2023 isn't relevant as the thread is about the Lay Offs in 2023. So kindly shove your moved goal post back from whence you pulled it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago And it is easier to argue against claims no one made. Data before 2023 isn't relevant as the thread is about the Lay Offs in 2023. So kindly shove your moved goal post back from whence you pulled it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago* That number alone isn’t particularly telling. What were those IT jobs? Did we lose a bunch of programmers and software architects and gained T1 support roles? Permanent vs contractual? What percentage had a pay cut/raise? How many people entered the workforce (graduated, new hires) vs how many left (retired or career change) this year? permalink fedilink source parent