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[–] 104 points 4 months ago (10 children)

the US system is broken, this is what happens when there is only two choices 🥲

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

    So you have an average normal politician running against literally Hitler. And people vote for literally Hitler.

    And you don't think the problem is the people voting for literally Hitler?

    Don't get me wrong, the US voting system is also bad. But that is really, really not the main problem here...

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  • [–] 59 points 4 months ago (29 children)

    IMO the bigger problem is that the "average normal politician" managed to be so bad that voters didn't feel motivated to vote against Hitler.

    This should have been a slam dunk - and there were literally a number of easy ways to motivate voters, like promising to stop the ongoing genocide the country is funding. But when given the choice between "letting Hitler win" and "stopping the genocide", Harris and the entire DNC leadership chose to let Hitler win.

    Isn't that deeply fucked up?

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    [–] 78 points 4 months ago (29 children)

    Can we get the fuck over this pointless nonsense, consign her to history, and do something about what's happening now, please?

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  • [–] 46 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    No, we're going to spend every day from now through the next presidential primary bashing nonexistent, Trump-supporting leftists because that's how you build your electoral base 🙄

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    [–] 60 points 4 months ago (45 children)

    Brother she ain't running no more. What are you fucking talking about?

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    [–] 56 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    How many times do I have to say it? The party lines are drawn in such a way to distract you from the actual cancer of late stage capitalism. Yeah yeah, "vote blue no matter who". How about "educate your neighbors no matter who" to get some actual fucking change instead if this ridiculous in-fighting?

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    [–] 55 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (24 children)

    This is stupid people who didn't like Kamala because the was a genocide enabler weren't saying vote Trump wtf.

    And anyway shit's over. This finger wagging told-ya-so bullshit is less than worthless. It's abundantly clear you can still lose to the worst person alive if people don't like you... So maybe force the Dems to run someone decent or make the Dems disappear. You're not gonna shame the electorate into the lesser of two evils crap, how have you not seen this yet? Regardless of how logical you think it is or how right you think you are. I think it's clear it's not working.

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    [–] 53 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    who keeps upvoting this bullshit?

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  • [–] 51 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

    It's true.

    Democrats are fucking stupid. The voters told you what they wanted, and it was affordability and no more WMD's for Israel, and Dems concluded it was too much to ask. Of course people didn't want to fucking vote for you.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Not only that, Democrats were being useless at best damaging at worst, babies dying and baby formula shortages, inflation and proven price gouging, continuing government contracts with Amazon while Amazon was quelling unions, forcing rejected contracts on railroad workers, letting private equity buy up all the hospitals, housing becoming unaffordable, being pro-police, supporting big tech low regulation companies, supporting Liz Cheney, talking about loving guns, losing Roe v Wade, Used car prices were skyrocketing, Promised marijuanna users would be released from prison but didn’t, made solar panels more expensive, student loans being out of control and college costs skyrocketing with subsidizing that being the only “solution “, letting reporters be killed by Israel, drone striking and funding massive military spending. What even is the Democrat base? What single issue voter did they NOT alienate? Maaaaybe the LGBT, Atheists, No Trump and Science Grant crowd?

    TLDR: Dems before the election alienated XWorkers XFarmers XCollege students XPro-Choice XGun Control XNo War XUnions XMarijuanna Users XMuslims XEnvironmentalists XMothers X People who wanted a house in the future XPeople who wanted action X People who hate Omnibus legislation and big government spending (a smaller portion of democrats for sure.)

    (I still voted for Harris not that it matters in a red or blue state)

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    [–] 49 points 4 months ago (42 children)

    Again genocide isn't a small thing, Harris also was very questionable on trans issues and extremely pro imperialism and cop.

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    [–] 44 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Delete this shitty fucking post. Dems put up a garbage candidate, and they lost the easiest race imaginable, for a second time.

    The Democratic Party actively courted right wing voters. The left obviously didn't want that, and the right was never going to vote for you anyway. You lost. Get over it. Start doing something actually useful instead of removed and whining.

    Anyone with any institutional fealty to the Democratic Party should be so embarrased, they never show their face in public again. But instead, they just punch left, and smugly act like their own failures were someone else's fault.

    Anyway, I'm off to go do real activism in my local community, with organizations that actually give a shit about me and my neighbors.

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    [–] 41 points 4 months ago (19 children)

    Oh my god when will you people shut the fuck up about this

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    [–] 40 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Please stop. This is disingenuous trash. No one concerned about Israel said vote for him.

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    [–] 39 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    My handler said it was my turn to post "whatabout kamala" post today.

    😡😡😡

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    [–] 37 points 4 months ago

    Pretty sure nobody who objected to Kopmala's enthusiastic genocide support voted for Trump

    Redirect some of that anger your boss and landlord told you to point left at the party who couldn't come up with a candidate that could beat Trump, twice. Then save a little for all the happy, complacent Liberals who think that a quadrennial choice between "the untenable status quo" and "make everything worse" is a functional democracy worth saving or mourning.

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  • [–] 37 points 4 months ago

    Acting like Harris is an ally for queer people and isn't an imperialist is genuinely out of touch with reality. I get you want to blame people because the "worse" white supremacist was elected, but narratives like this will be used by the Democratic Party to continue the fascism if and when the Republicans lose power. Gavin Newsom isn't intentionally abandoning pro-queer performative politics for nothing.

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  • [–] 36 points 4 months ago

    You forgot the swastika and the pedobear under Trump.

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  • [–] 30 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Ah, liberal wokescolding first thing in the morning

    Yes, thank you for opening our eyes, none of us knew this, even though we all held our nose and voted for the woman who was suddenly thrust on us as it became apparent that Joe Biden couldn’t win, who herself was winning UNTIL she said we’ll have the most lethal military and who cozied up to Sarah Longwell and fucking Liz Cheney and spent time chasing Republican votes and basically promising nothing to anyone from the moderates to the left

    You fucking Overton shit shovelers are insufferable.

    Hey you know what we might not have had climate change if Al Gore had gotten elected in 2000. Why aren’t we doing more hanging-chad memes?

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    [–] 30 points 4 months ago

    Another insultingly stupid take of blaming voters for the problems caused by greedy people. THIS VIOLATES RULE 1 of the forum.

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  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    You're allowed to hate both you know? The Empire will never put a progressive in charge.

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    [–] 29 points 4 months ago (36 children)

    Field better candidate next time instead of a genocide accomplice.

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    [–] 29 points 4 months ago

    Yeah Top Cop over here definitely would have done something about gun violence lmao

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  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago (15 children)

    are we still doing this? Seriously? Blaming voters for the outcome of an election which happened over a year ago instead of coming up with a winning electoral strategy for today?

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    [–] 27 points 4 months ago

    And so, to avoid this from happening again, next time the Democrats are going to propose a candidate that doesn't have that weak spot, right? RIGHT?

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  • [–] 26 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    We don't have to settle.

    The dnc is at fault here for not letting us choose the democratic nominee.

    This is not on the people.

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    [–] 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    Ok it's paraphrased but like yeah I really felt like she had our backs in this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbVPee2UdJk

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    [–] 22 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    I voted for Kamala. But her weak spine-ass would've let Israel do the exact same thing to Palestinians. She said she wouldn't be any different from Biden, and we know Biden was a huge Zionist.

    Of course though, Democrats will clutch their pearls even to this day saying that it was someone else's fault as to why she lost. No it fucking wasn't. Kamala had the MOST support immediately after Biden backed out. She even brought Tim Walz on board who seemed decently progressive at the time. And then Dems started capitulating to the Right. It was sickening to hear at the DNC, "the world's strongest military".

    And then just yesterday, the DNC votes to block a resolution condemning dark money, including AIPAC, in elections. Establishment Dems are cancer in my eyes. We know Republicans are evil, so Democrats should be the ideological opposite - yet they aren't. They let Republicans get away.

    We urgently need Ranked Choice Voting (RCV) in this country so we can finally break free of these horrendous 2 choices. Or we don't and stochastic terrorism rises because politicians refuse to curtail corporations and people suffer more and more financially.

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    [–] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Oh boy can't wait to rehash this braindead take again tomorrow. I swear guys she only lost to DT because you weren't locked in

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago

    can we please stop relitigating 2024 all over lemmy right new? everyone's being just as inneffective and useless rn 2026 as they were two years ago. if you're actually interested in doing something about all this awfulness get out into the streets, go to mutual aid projects, train with community defense groupsg and actually do something useful. this is like the 5th fucking thing i've seen on lemmy, from either side of what action should have been taken 2 years ago (ie: vote for Kamala, don't vote for Kamala) and i'm fucking sick of it.

    just like i didn't encounter anyone with lemmy's "vote 3rd party, it's the only way forward" political stances out in the real world, i'm not encountering anyone who's still thinking this hard about a day 2 years ago who's actually doing anything to address these problems

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