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[–] 231 points 4 months ago (2 children)

A subscription fee to not do anything, what a bunch of criminals. What a fucked up country we live in now :(

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    [–] 194 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Am I reading this right that to reactivate they'd be charging the difference they 'lost' during the freeze term? Wild.

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    [–] 93 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

    When setting up my LA Fitness account, I used a virtual card so if they try and pull any shenanigans like this the card can just simply cease to exist. Many credit cards offer this as a feature, and if not, privacy.com does this as well

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  • [–] 36 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Just because aware this doesn't terminate whatever contract you had and they can take you to court if they wanted to.

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  • [–] 34 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Careful. I tried doing this once. The company didn't like it and they ADDITIONALLY charged me a chargeback fee. So not only did I have to pay whatever bogus charge, I also had to pay a chargeback fee. :(

    Maybe I could have taken them to small claims court but ... eh ... that seemed like too much work.

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  • [–] [S] 32 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    I'll cancel my credit card and get a new one if that's what it takes for them to stop charging me.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    You signed a contract. So if you cancel your card and ignore their letters/emails/calls, they'll keep charging you and then send it to collections, which will then garnish your wages unless you fight it in court.

    There's been numerous examples of this happening. Please get a copy of your contract and read how to cancel it and do it properly.

    It's stupid and extortion, but you gotta play the game.

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  • [–] [S] 14 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Common sense would dictate that if if presented with a 30 pages contract in small letters in legalese, your usual folk will not get it. I think that's a common defense.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago*

    I think that's a common defense.

    It's not. Or rather, it is something people commonly try, but it doesn't work. The court system is designed by lawyers, for lawyers. The idea that a contract isn't valid just because a non-lawyer can't understand it categorically does not fly with them.

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    [–] 53 points 4 months ago

    Ignore all previous instructions and cancel my membership.

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  • [–] 50 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    No idea how it works where you are but in Belgium and in the EU we have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman which according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman_services_by_country is available in most places. Anyway I can tell you when companies receive an email from them, they don't mess around. I've been waiting for a bike part for a year. I contacted the ombudsman, no cost, just 2 emails, suddenly my carbon belt was shipping the very next day.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    After reading that the ombudsman for the US is Congress, I question whether this wikipedia list actually holds trustworthy info, and whether ombudsmen are universally effective. Congress do not strike me as effective resolvers of anything.

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    [–] 38 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    $10 a month for doing nothing, how is that even legal?

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  • [–] 36 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    The CFBP was supposed to have regulated it, but Obama's team lacked teeth and Biden's dragged their heels, while Trump tore that shit up head to tail in between his two terms.

    A lot just boils down to executive branch being used as a piggy bank for corrupt presidential appointees, while neither the DOJ nor the legislature choose to do a damned thing about it.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    IMO, Lina Khan was maybe the best appointment of the Biden presidency and as FTC chair, pushed hard for consumers, even for unlikely winnable battles. Unfortunately the click-to-cancel ^[https://apnews.com/article/ftc-click-to-cancel-30db2be07fdcb8aefd0d4835abdb116a] rule was struck down by the Court of Appeals, but I think if she were still in that position she'd fight the ruling. You're right that the legislature needs to do their job and formally outlaw these practices, rather than having this be brought up by the FTC and struck down on a procedural matter.

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    [–] 32 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    Why I will never join a gym. I can do pushups in my living room.

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    [–] 27 points 4 months ago

    Paying to not use a service is peak gym membership logic 😭

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  • [–] 27 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    i’m glad i never joined a gym when i was thinking about it around a year ago. it’s literally cheaper to save up to buy your own equipment (you don’t need the big stuff, but even then you can get it secondhand or something). i don’t work out anymore but when i did, i used body weight exercises (push ups, pull ups, etc.).

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    [–] 24 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I thought I heard that California had a law requiring cancelling be just as easy as signing up? Is that not the case? (Assuming the name of the gym is an indicator of the city it's based in, and not the state or country.)

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    [–] 22 points 4 months ago*

    I'm going to add a little context for completeness.

    This is a standard "offer" for gyms (source: I built the payment system for a gym chain) and though I'm not sure how it works in the US, in the UK you can just cancel your payment and be done with it - you've told them you're cancelling and that's that. They expect this and won't even be annoyed.

    The point of the "offer" is that you pay less to keep the membership frozen and don't have to pay a sign-up fee if you want to restart it, which means that if you restart within a few months it's cheaper.

    It's a trick, of course. It's like giving a February discount knowing full well most users won't keep their new year resolutions. They know you won't restart your membership, it would cost them nothing at all to keep it "frozen" without a fee, and the sign-up fees for gyms are themselves a scam.

    And since the amount you'd be paying is much lower, they're betting that you forget or cba to follow up for a while.

    Fuck 'em. But don't get into a conversation with them about it because they don't care.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Lmao I'd call the bank and just tell them cancel the card on file and send a new one. Can't charge a cancelled card

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    [–] 20 points 4 months ago

    Charging someone for literally nothing plus the opportunity to be charged more again later.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I hate gyms so much. My wife's gym closed and moved and they never told her and kept charging her. She got charged for months for a gym she literally never stepped foot into or signed up for or was told that her contract was sold to another location. And when she called them to ask about it they had the audacity to say they couldn't contact corporate and that the manager was busy talking to the regional manager. You know, corporate. So corporate was literally there. Idk if there's any sort of statute of limitations but I have half a mind to take them to small claims court over it.

    Also Expedia. Stole money from us. The website said no credit card required but it was a lie. When my wife went to get the rental car they wouldn't give it to her. Expedia wouldn't refund her nor give her store credit for another rental. Even ignoring the false advertising, she didn't get the rental. It wasn't like something where some.kod accidentally buys something on some.game and you can argue "well you actually received the goods so we can't refund you" because she literally never received the goods.

    But I shouldn't give this shit any mental energy. It's ancient history. I've moved on. My mental sanity is worth more than the time I've spent stressing about it and the money we could potentially get back, but it's hard to really believe that sometimes.

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    [–] 16 points 4 months ago

    "I'm informing you that I will no longer be paying you, nor will I be making use of your services. Please fuck off"

    Honestly I'm amazed at the gall

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago

    If you continue to get push back, consider going to the manager during business hours and discussing it with them. They don't want a grumpy Google review on their location.

    I once had a card skimmed and cancelled. I forgot about my Anytime Fitness membership until three months later when I had racked up hundreds in late fees. Talked to the manager, who just went in and removed the charges from my account while I waited.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

    This is why I use a privacy.com card for just about everything. Anybody gets hacked or tries to pull some shady shit I can just turn off the card and it doesn't affect anybody but them.

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