Klarna for rent (media.piefed.zip)
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[–] 125 points 5 months ago (7 children)

People already put rent on their credit card to pay it off in chunks. This is just Klarna tapping in that market

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  • [–] 87 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    People already put rent on their credit card to pay it off in chunks. This is just Klarna tapping in that market

    People using CC to pay rent isn't reassuring, it's more alarming. Paying for housing on short-term, high-interest credit is financial insanity and implies profound dysfunction if not desperation.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I think the intention was to get the points. But, I'm sure some are not as diligent as they should be.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    You get charged a 3% transaction fee for using a credit card, which more than wipes out the value of any points you might earn.

    Tap for spoiler(Excluding the Bilt card, which used to let you earn 1% on rent and they processed it like an ACH/bank debit, so no credit card fee. But they recently restructured their rewards and it’s not nearly as easy to profit now.)

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I tend to forget that salaries are paid weekly in the US. Then this makes at least somewhat sense.

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  • [–] 54 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Not typically. Every other week is more common.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Well, I’m used to monthly, both for rent and for salaries. So biweekly is still strangely often to me.

    But thanks for correcting me.

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    [–] 103 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (14 children)

    bro. Fucking -- Think about it. Klarna pay in 3 installments divide the cost by 3 and take payments monthly. Month A, you pay one third. Month B you pay one third of months A and B. By month C onwards you're consistently paying three thirds or 100% of the rent. You'd only defer yourself the value of one month's rent over the span of two months. Pointless.

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  • [–] 76 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    That’s how fucked our economy is. There is a significant number of people so close to the edge that buying an extra 10 days before eviction is the final gasp before becoming homeless.

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  • [–] 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Yes. Previously the alternative was payday loans, which charged exorbitant interest rates.

    People have tried to ban these sorts of predatory loan businesses before but it usually forces people into the hands of organized crime loan sharks who charge even more exorbitant interest and exact brutal punishments on people who don’t pay up.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago*

    They should be illegal. The literal only difference between these ‘services’ and the mob is they typically don’t break your knees.

    But that’s not the only despicable thing about the mafia’s racket.

    These people squeeze the last blood from people who often become homeless anyhow; whereas if landlords had souls, many people could at least keep their housing and not be so vulnerable to predators.

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    Dystopian fucking timeline. Around every corner there seemingly waits billionaires waiting to fuck ppl over

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  • [–] 58 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Yet more proof that "richest country in the world" doesn't mean what Americans think it means.

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    [–] 51 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    "Can't pay rent? Don't worry we have an even more humiliating solution for you!"

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  • [–] 38 points 5 months ago

    Rent money to rent apartment

    Great idea

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  • [–] 34 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Richest nation in the world.

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    [–] 32 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Klarna 'bout to find out their business model doesn't work as well in the US compared to the Nordic countries and EU, as

    1. People are already up to their neck in debt, putting Klarna to the back of the queue in case there's a default
    2. Personal bankruptcy is a thing

    Especially the Northern Europe personal bankruptcy is really not a thing, fuck up your finances and you're never going to see a penny you make (above what you strictly need to live) until everything has been paid back. Debt that is actively being collected also never expires.

    There's a good reason Klarna's been able to thrive in this environment – getting debt from banks is quite difficult and you have added security from the draconian collections process.

    In the US a company ignores credit scores at their own peril. The bankruptcy process is one of the few things that works better in the US than in e.g. my home country Finland.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Klarna is a thing in Germany as well and personal bankruptcy absolutely is a thing here [https://www.verbraucherzentrale.de/wissen/geld-versicherungen/kredit-schulden-insolvenz/privatinsolvenz-in-3-jahren-schuldenfrei-11417] so I don't know if your second point is that relevant. I'd agree on the first one though.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    Serves me right for assuming Germans had a similarly judgemental attitude to people who have ruined their finances. Thanks for the correction.

    Finns often have a very puritan attitude to debt (you should fear it like the devil), and in the common discussion it's often attributed to the ethics of the Lutheran church. That's at least partially the reason we still don't have a real personal bankruptcy option. Somewhat surprising to me that a country that shares that value system could be that forgiving to people – I'm a bit envious even 😅

    Around here Klarna and other similar companies have long been seen as exploiting the fact that debt is really difficult to get through proper sources, and there's a matching draconian bunch of collections agencies to support that business model. We've mainly been trying to tackle this by regulating the process of giving out loans, instead of giving people the necessary way out and thus giving the corporations an incentive to self-regulate.

    If bad credit is actually no longer possible to collect on, it ceases to be good business. Hats off to Germany for having a proper route out of predatory loans.

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    [–] 29 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    How much later? Can I get 50 years on that cause I'm gonna take that option.

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    [–] 26 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    I'm no Maoist but those 'land reforms' are starting to sound pretty good right now.

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    [–] 23 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    Financing is bad at the best of times.

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    [–] 18 points 5 months ago

    Gatekeeping basic necessities behind paywalls is economic violence.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago

    coming soon: Americans are fucking drowning in debt

    neofeudalism here we come!

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    The “free market” at work, folks.

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    [–] 15 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    My dad paid 140k to buy a lot and build a house about 25-30 years ago. It's back up for sale...$475k. in that time, minimum wage went from $5.15 an hour to $7.25 in that save time frame.

    People are still working 40+ hour weeks, and healthcare is somehow costs MORE, along with everything else.

    I don't fucking think immigrants had anything to do with any of that.

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    [–] 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Could I get a loan to help me pay a klarna instalment?

    How deeply can we dig this hole?

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    [–] 14 points 5 months ago

    Wiggling another jenga block out of the tower.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    The best system in the world everyone!

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    So what happens if you keep leveraging klarna on klarna on klarna and then just buy a van, skip the bill, and go off grid?

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    Gotta love a good loansharking scheme.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Isn't this just a mortgage without the equity?

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    [+] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
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