"oh no, my actions are resulting in predictable consequences"
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These people are a combination of mentally ill and evil to be giving out conflicting information at their whim.
Not surprising to see Oz and RFK jr do a 180 on vaccines now that there's a blossoming pandemic. The anti-vax movement was never really about the vaccines, it's just another distract and divide tactic.
The 20th century antivax movement started, as all things do, as a grift.
not-a-doctor Andrew Wakefield falsified evidence and commited fraud to make people believe the MMR vaccine was dangerous. Not because he was against vaccines in general, but because he got a fuckload of money from a company that sold seperate vaccines who didn't like the fact that a combination vaccine was costing them a lot of money.
He actually made his money from a NY law firm who wanted to sue vaccine makers but couldn't find any evidence against them in the US, so they paid Wakefield to fake data.
This is why scientific fraud is illegal in many countries and could land jail time. Not the US or UK.
In the US:
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If you were born before 1957, you're presumed immune to measles.
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If you were vaccinated before 1967, you should get a booster [the original vaccine wasn't as effective as the later vaccine].
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If you were vaccinated between 1967 and 1989, you should consider a booster shot [they thought you only needed one shot, but you actually need two].
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If you were vaccinated after 1989, you are presumed immune.
But rfk said I'd get autism. And like that's worse. Right?
Clearly They has gotten to him and he can no longer be trusted.
Why did they come out against vaccines in the first place, if they were just going to shit themselves the second the obvious consequences showed up.
Because they wanted to grift, but then found out the consequences will kill off their customers.
Why did they come out against vaccines in the first place
RFK Jr was getting $250,000/yr as "consultant" to anti vax simps.
Meh Oz had all kinds of side hustles with magic berries, herbs and colored feathers. Columbia turfed him for good reasons.
What does "Columbia turfed him" mean?
Columbia University Medical Center in NY fired him.
‘He’s been a huge danger to public health,’
- a group of distinguished physicians wrote to Columbia, claiming Oz had “repeatedly shown disdain for science and for evidence-based medicine” and shown “outrageous conflicts of interest or flawed judgements about what constitutes appropriate medical treatments, or both”.*
“Worst of all,” the letter continued, “he has manifested an egregious lack of integrity by promoting quack treatments and cures in the interest of personal financial gain.”
I'd be in favour of reich-wingers not being vaccinated, when their stupidity only came with a darwin-award for themselves, but they*re putting everyone around them, including their kids in danger.
Member the Herman Cain awards? Good times.
I'm totally fine with hundreds or thousands of dead antivaxxers. That's their choice, and they're adults who are free to be morons.
Unfortunately it also means dozens of dead not-yet-vaccinated babies and a dozens of vaccinated people.
Pretty sure this is what they all thought “Killing In The Name Of” was about.
sigh. It's a shame that this is appropriately posted in the politics community. I miss the time where this wouldn't have been appropriate in a political community ....

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