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[–] 157 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Haha, this proves that god is not a source of morality, and instead is a dictator. I've killed everybody I want to kill, which is nobody, even when god isn't there to stop me.

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  • [–] 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    God: Here's some plagues, floods, and famine. Now worship me.

    Satan: Anyone interested in some sex, drugs, and rock and roll?

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    [–] 137 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    If you're only a good person under threat, then you're not a good person.

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    [–] 86 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The question I get asked by religious people all the time is, without God, what’s to stop me from raping all I want?

    And my answer is: I do rape all I want. And the amount I want is zero. And I do murder all I want, and the amount I want is zero.

    The fact that these people think that if they didn’t have this person watching over them that they would go on killing, raping rampages is the most self-damning thing I can imagine.

    I don't want to do that. Right now, without any god, I don't want to jump across this table and strangle you. I have no desire to strangle you. I have no desire to flip you over and rape you.

    -Penn Jillette

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago

    Not just that, but I've yet to come across anybody who has actually refrained from doing the bad thing they want to do because of some fear of God. They might be afraid of legal consequences, but belief hasn't prevented rape, theft, envy, murder, or anything else among even (especially) the leaders of the religious.

    So no, not believing in God doesn't make atheists rapists and murderers, and believing in God doesn't prevent the devout from rape and murder.

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    [–] 64 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    As an atheist and a “liberal,” I don’t kill people because I’m not a bad person.

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  • [–] 57 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    So what’s stopping atheists from just going on killing sprees then?

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    [–] 50 points 2 years ago

    Christo-fascists openly revealing that they are genuinely terrible people held together with duct tape and faith in a genocidal God will never cease to be both hilarious and terrifying.

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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    So nothing stops this guy from killing?

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  • [–] 51 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    No, his fear of imaginary retaliation stops him from murdering. All he's saying is "if I could still get into heaven I'd be killing all of you." Doesn't matter that God is real or not, his imagination is keeping him in check (thankfully.)

    This is actually what religion was meant for. Keeping those that believe it and are psychos in check.

    As others are saying though, it looks awfully fake lol

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  • [–] 43 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Matthew 15: 18 "But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them"

    As stated in his own holy book, he's going to hell.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago

    Saying the quiet part out loud. If you need a god to keep you from doing awful shit, you are a terrible person on a leash but we already know this.

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  • [+] 35 points 2 years ago* (5 children)
  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Do you even know how to read this analysis? It simply shows you the blocks in the JPEG that contain high frequency information, it doesn't massively reveal areas that were edited. The documentation even tells you how to read it, but you obviously didn't bother to reference it; you can only use it to compare areas with similar texture and edges to see if they have been compressed differently. Text and high detail textures are supposed to be highlighted because THAT IS HOW JPEG WORKS; it throws away information in uniform and low detail areas to save space, because human perception cannot tell the difference. This would only indicate manipulation if parts of the text contained less or more information than similar looking parts, indicating that someone e.g. took a highly compressed JPEG, added uncompressed new image fragments and compressed it again using high quality settings.

    I really don't care about this particular image, but you are claiming that you can tell fakes from reals by using an analysis method in a wrong way, and you didn't bother to back up your claim, you just linked to an analysis which could cause people to jump to the wrong conclusion. This is how misinformation begins.

    Edit: for reference, look at the ELA for this random bumper sticker: https://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=0461290163af13fe55380b661fc1bf9d5d56a020.463104&show=ela

    This effect is completely expected. Frankly, ELA seems like a crackpot analysis. At least you have to be REALLY careful when applying it to JPEG. You would need to have two similar looking bumper stickers of the same size and same level of detail in shadows in the same picture. Only if they differed significantly in the ELA could you maybe conclude something, but I still think it's shit.

    The method for producing these highlights is also really roundabout, since it just re-compresses the input and compares it with the original. A much more straightforward method would be to count the number of bits in each block in the raw JPEG data to get a measure of how aggressively the blocks were quantized.

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    [–] 35 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Yeah, uh huh... This is fake.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What?!

    Don't you have individual Sans Serif letter stickers around the centre-right of your rear windscreen that you managed to line up like a text editor in photoshop but also rotated 10 degrees off centre saying literal insane shit that's perfect for smug internet people to screencap?

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    [–] 30 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The thing is its simply not true. We know what Jesus is like. (🐪🪡💰) And yet most ministries in the 21st century see the right to property as central to Christianity rather than the duty to feed and clothe the destitute.

    Behind The Bastards did a recent two parter on How Capitalism Ate Christianity, starting with the ministry of James W. Fifield Jr. that reinterpreted scripture to veer away from charity and mercy and towards the righteousness of capitalism. It was largely helped after WWII by the red scare in which the Soviet Union provided a fine example of the singular alternative.

    So Christianity was repurposed into the Christian Nationalist movement that seeks to turn the US into a one-party autocracy with fascist features.

    Why would Adonai allow His holy scripture to be subverted to serve plutocrats? In fact it is done all the time, and has been done to advocate monarchy, to endorse slavery, to oppose war, to endorse war against specific belligerents and so on.

    Dan McClellan on his YouTube channel notes scripture does not feature univocality, inerrancy or divine authority according to scholarly consensus (which commonly runs contrary to what apologists might suggest). As McClellan notes the people of any era has to negotiate with the scripture to affirm their own morality, whether that's pacifism and charity or standing your ground and massacring degenerates.

    But that is also to say the ministries will justify violence when it serves them, whether that's torturing POWs and massacring villages during the Iraq war or forcing conversions at swordpoint as per the crusades and holy inquisition. And yes plenty of Christians when told they need to load for bear and hunt the sinners will do so, especially if they're in precarity and fear for the security of their home, family, job, survival, etc.

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "I'm only a good person because the invisible sky daddy makes me be good."

    You're not a good person if someone is holding you back from being a bad person.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago

    For the most part, never try to talk people out of religion. Some people Need skycake and the boogie man to be a reasonable human being.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    This isn't even a good photoshop, it looks like it was made in snapchat

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    My response is simply that I'm glad they still believe in an overseer that restricts their dangerous behavior. Some of us don't need that to be nice to others.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago*

    Another way to say the sentiment of this shit-kickin' Jayzus knuckle-dragger:
    "If I wasn't afraid of punishment, I'd go on a killing rampage."

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago*

    "I read was told about in church saw the cover of a book about a zombie a long time ago. I now assume what the book PROBABLY said and I also hear a voice in my head based on those assumptions. I'm VERY afraid of the voice and also it loves me and it did the Holocaust - anyways, that's the only reason I'm not a murderer"

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    “The threat of the unknown is what keeps me from forming my own opinions of right and wrong based on what is known.”

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    "I do the bare minimum to function in society because of the threat of eternal punishment"

    Also, looks a little photoshopped to me.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    By all means, keep believing in that god and stay tf away from me. I don't want to risk myself being around you if and when you lose your faith.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Really looks like a photoshop, I've met the type of person but the bumper sticker is a little on the nose and doesn't quite look right.

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