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[–] 206 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Too little to late.. I already left and fell in love with Linux

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    Same here. Got fed up after every damned update to subscribe to this, want to setup backup to cloud, setup office. Switched to Linux and now not a single subscription popup in sight. It’s been bliss. Spent the weekend with the misses sorting out 30 years of photos and getting to know exif editor 🫣

    [edit] exif not exit editor.

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    [–] 121 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Windows 11 felt like a downgrade before all the AI bs. Microsoft values me more as an advertising opportunity than a customer.

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  • [–] 24 points 6 months ago

    I had avoided it until late last year when I had to reinstall a friend's borked install after it had somehow managed to shred its registry hives.

    Holy shit. That installer is an embarrassment. First it couldn't get past the first reboot until I found out that you can set it to use what looks like the Windows 7 installer for the first steps. Then I had to deal with a dog slow installer that needs half a dozen reboots for some unfathomable reason. Then an endless cavalcade of sales prompts, including one for an Office subscription where they try to hide the price from you. All to end in, well, Windows 11.

    I simultaneously installed Fedora Kinoite on his old laptop. I don't think the Fedora installer is one of the better ones but it was so much easier and faster to set up the machine that it was almost comical.

    Seeing both systems side by side really drives home just how clunky Windows is. And how Microsoft installers are barely better than they were 15 years ago, but now they have ads.

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  • [–] 76 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I read "reevaluating its AI strategy on Windows 11" as "finding a more subtle way to shove that botulistic sausage down their customers throats".

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  • [–] 55 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    I think it's really easy for Lemmy users to assume that the general population has the same technological interest and literacy that they do.

    The Windows 11 users they are talking about are from an /r/pcmasterrace thread.

    The vast, vast majority of consumers don't give a shit. They don't care enough to even think about whether their computer is actually secure, they don't care that they don't own their OS, and they don't care that AI is being shoved in.

    Their computer is a magic box to them, and they don't care to know more.

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I do think the vast majority of users see things like copliot all over the OS, and then watch their PC run like shit, and assume it's the new fandagled thing ruining their experience regardless of whether they care about AI or not.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    I am not a tech wizard. As soon as my new minipc got home with Windows 11, I installed CachyOS on it. I found out later that it's based on one of the "difficult" Linux variants, but everything went super smoothly (I might have just been lucky. i don't know, don't take this as advice!).

    Yes I had to follow a few instructions on creating an installation USB key. That was the hardest part. But my relationship with windows had become too abusive. I do want my computer to "just work" and let me do my stuff, but that's not what windows is doing any longer

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    [+] 42 points 6 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    I stopped seeing all the copilot ai crap after I removed it from my windows 11 computer. Not sure what versions of windows people on here are running but I'm glad it's not on my PC! It is unfortunate that windows needs to be debloated if you buy home version instead of enterprise (a mistake I made), if they keep making users need to tweak stuff they'll be better off on linux soon! Windows was supposed to be the idiot proof for office drones but it appears those days are gone.

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    [–] 37 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I think the best way to turn people on to Linux is to give them a bootable live USB, so they can try it out. Otherwise, they have no basis for comparison.

    Too many people just accept whatever Microsoft gives them, shrug and think, "Well, I guess this is just the way computers are."

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    The best way from my perspective is to show them.

    At tech events and meetups, I'm showing them Linux.

    When my friends come over, I show them my self hosted solutions on a Linux.

    At work, where we use Macs, we talk about open-source, including Linux.

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    [–] 35 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    The Start menu has gotten worse with every update. It is getting ridiculous.
    I can no longer click start > type in the program I need > hit enter.
    Start menu, you had one job!

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    [–] 26 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Windows 11 feels like Microsoft is actively punishing me for being foolish enough to keep using their products. Adding some janky AI bullshit machine to this garbage fire feels now they're just taking the piss.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    No joke, one of the last straws for me was their stupid copilot popup on the active cell in Excel. Hated that garbage. Also their refusal to let me just use the file explorer to save my files. Maybe I'm an old fogey, but every new addition felt like a step backwards. I have now switched to Linux and am having a decent time (not for everyone tho and I totes understand if others don't want to make the switch).

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  • [–] 26 points 6 months ago

    Microsoft's promises to fix the OS and stop pushing AI

    Never heard such a promise.

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  • [–] 24 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    What sucks is - windows is the easiest to jump off. There are tons of viable alternatives.

    There is nothing for mobile.

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    [–] 24 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Remember: Companies don't learn lessons, they react to profits. They're 100% gonna boil the frog here.

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    [–] 21 points 6 months ago

    i don’t believe it and am no longer giving them the chance to allow me to see it.

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  • [–] 20 points 6 months ago (13 children)

    Microsoft hasn't made a decent OS since Windows 7, why would they start now?

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    [–] 19 points 6 months ago

    Great news, you don't have to bother, just switch to Linux. I did, and I don't have to spend a single moment worrying about what Microsoft is doing to their garbage.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago

    know who never pushed AI?

    Linux.

    know who has fixes or useful community support?

    Linux.

    know who doesn't scan your desktop every second to scrape your data?

    Linux.

    know who has the audacity to provide a free product and still doesn't sell your identity to the lowest bidders?

    Linux.

    holy shit, it's almost like Linux is the OS by the people for the people...

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    There's a threshold that you pass and once you do there's no going back because the trust is lost forever and customers will go the next chance they get.

    It looks like this is finally the point we might have reached with windows.

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    [–] 15 points 6 months ago

    and this is why I use Linux. No forced AI nonsense being shoved down my neck.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago

    Sorry, I can't hear you over all the Linux on my computers since last year. Did you say "promises to shit on the OS and super push AI?" Yeah, sounds about right for Microslop.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Do you believe them that they gonna stop AI? It's a billion investment that needs results for the shareholders!

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    [–] 13 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    I'll believe it when I see it

    Why? Why even wanna see it? Just walk away, go to Linux, and find that suddenly you own your computer again

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    [–] 11 points 6 months ago

    They'll stop pushing AI by integrating it throughout the system similar to how Internet Explorer is tied to everything. Except much more invasive.

    Their goal is certainly not reducing AI, it's making it seamlessly incorporated in everything you do.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    even being cynical towards microsoft at this point looks to me like sheepish adoration. If you have any hope that microsoft might start doing better you are naive.

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    No they aren't. They don't care.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    In this update this month they prioritized the app store over local results. I tried to type powershell (work computer) on the start menu, and now it offers me the app store link BEFORE my installed powershell. Yeah I'm sure they're going to change course.

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    [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    Like 5 years too late for me, I ditched Winslop bit over 4 years ago, never looked back. Yes, it's not perfect, not everything works out of the box and I have to search for solutions every now and then but it's My Computer again.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    Microsoft my sweet summer child, it's not just the ai. It's the Spyware wrapped in a Windows shell. Call me when I can install without needing an MS account.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    Microslop could do absolutely anything to Windows and it wouldn't make me go back because it would be Microslop doing it.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    The damage has been done. But honestly, Windows 11 changed my life despite its shortcomings.

    So thank you, Microslop, for making me embrace Linux.

    Microsoft appears to be finally listening to users

    They're not, never will.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    I don't think windows is an OS anymore. It just the personification of the checkout questions they ask you at GameStop or BestBuy about the extended warranty or magazine subscription.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    Their stock tanking like 12% must have been a wake up call

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