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[–] 193 points 6 months ago* (30 children)

"I resisted calling it fascism until it was too late and people were dying at the hands of monsters."

Get fucked. It was fascism when it was George Floyd and it's fascism now. It's been a fascism white people were willing to ignore because it didn't impact them directly for fucking decades, if not a hundred years or more.

Great job joining us in reality.

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  • [–] 103 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    [Fascism] has been overused to the point of meaninglessness, especially by left-leaning types who call you a fascist if you oppose abortion or affirmative action.

    Yeah, this guy can fuck right off.

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    [–] 112 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    It was fascism this time 12 months ago when Trump had women and people of colors plaques and images covered at national museums and at nasa.

    When they banned words from research. Like: women. Female. Bias, transgender, equality. Privilege.

    When they prosecuted women as murderers for having a safe first trimester termination of pregnancy.

    When they started demanding a woman must die before any medical procedures would be performed that could harm a fetus, even if that fetus was dead or non viable.

    When they removed black veterans stories from the VA websites and other government websites.

    When they changed the dod to the department of war.

    My gawd. This all started a year ago. It was fascism then.

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  • [–] 24 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Maybe the mainstream will finally reach consensus on the label just as the last reporters are being onboarded at gunpoint to concentration camp trains.

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    [–] 70 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    I’d like to take this opportunity to express the profoundly tragic failure of Democrats to mount any kind of meaningful opposition to this fascist project, that has been underway since at least the Reagan administration.

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    [–] 52 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I’m glad you got there eventually. Keep listening closely to the people who told you this years ago, they are clearly more perceptive than you.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    It was literally fucking YEARS of me dealing with variations of "he's not a fascist! He's just an impotent wannabe dictator, we'll be fine. You're overreacting!" from acquaintances and family. Not friends, I don't have friends that stupid.

    I will stand arm in arm with every person who mocked me for "being a worrier", not just because it's the only way out of this, but because it's the best way, maybe the only way, to build a better future.

    With that having been said, I hope each and every one of them gets a terrible case of genital lice at some point in their lives.

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    [–] 41 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Oh well now that YOU say it, king of the obvious, now we are allowed.

    You know, Start by saying you’re fucking sorry for being an idiot. Because that’s what you’re actually reporting.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    I am so upset by articles like this, but the saddest part is that they're needed. Months ago a professor who studies fascism fled the country due to rising fascism. There were articles about it. I sent them to family and friends in an attempt to warn them about what was coming. Some did listen, but there are so many people we will have to pick up along the way and "meet where they're at". I wish all articles like this were "I'm a huge idiot and was horribly wrong and will devote myself to fixing this now", but in reality that helps no one. I can keep sending out articles like this and since it's not "wow! I and by extension you were a dumb idiot" people may feel like maybe realizing it now is smart and can have their minds changed. I would appreciate a better note at the end, once the reader may be swayed, that was about what to do going forward and how to learn to listen, but it is what it is.

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    [–] 41 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I wonder which of the 3000 things over the past decade changed their minds.

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  • [–] 40 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    So the United States, once the world’s exemplary liberal democracy, is now a hybrid state combining a fascist leader and a liberal Constitution; but no, it has not fallen to fascism. And it will not.

    Well that’s alright then. I almost thought the Atlantic was becoming less useless for a second there

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    [–] 34 points 6 months ago (1 child)
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    [–] 31 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Yes, we know.

    See, everyone knows that fascism is a bad thing. That has been taught in every school since the end of WW2.

    It's just a shame that most people never bothered to look up what fascism actually is, and it can be something your guys do as well.

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    I feel like this debate over whether it's fascism or not misses a big point:

    It's an oppressive nationalist state with practically unchecked presidential power. It is responsible for numerous war crimes. It instates hardline policies targeting everyday Americans. It puts people in detention camps. It is fueled by exceptionalism on all levels, from foreign policy to religion. And at the same time, it doesn't provide for its people, cutting all forms of social support.

    It also erodes democratic institutions in an attempt to cement itself, so that other powers couldn't change course.

    You can call it fascism. You can call it authoritarianism. What matters is that America is turned into an angry shithole hostile to both others and it's own people. Isn't that a reason good enough to stand strongly against it? Why do people wait for a "fascist" label, like it's some sort of red cloth, and would it change much if tomorrow Trump would plead allegiance to Hitler?

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    [+] 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)
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    [–] 22 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Fascism is a big word with a lot of weight to it.

    The more you get into politics and the more you debate with people across the aisle, the more you realize you have to be careful what words you use, so as not to lose credibility.

    That being said.......this is fascism. Period.

    It's happening. It's happening now. It's happening here. It's not debatable anymore.

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    [–] 18 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    “Oh gee wiz, turns out he’s doing the dictator thing like he said he would”

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    [–] 15 points 6 months ago

    So you literally ignored hitlers plot playing out until it was to late, and now it’s okay to call them hurtful name. Another banger from the Atlantic.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    You guys are so screwed, I left Reddit cause of all the censorship and siding with the government.

    I’ve had comment removed from this community for being incendiary, for saying Trump and ICE agents need to feel the force of the second amendment.

    You guys are not even allowed to discuss anything further than a useless peaceful protest, or you get banned or shut down and silenced.

    Even regular folk who mod on Lemmy are tripping over themselves to stop us from actually doing anything

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    [–] 14 points 6 months ago

    Thinking it a term best avoided for reasons of decorum is part of what got us here.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Well, welcome to the party, I guess.

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    [–] 12 points 6 months ago

    And too late to matter. Thanks.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    The Atlantic is trash. Lib bullshit late to the party and faking it. These are the same people who enable fascism. Not to mention the zios...

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I'm reminded of that smarmy dickhead that wrote "Liberal Fascism" that was about mansplaining how it was really the liberals that were the fascists.

    Every conservative spent a lot of time telling me I simply must read this book.

    Then there was Tucker, who said he'd have to blame liberals if he were to later support fascism because, really, what choice did he have? People kept calling him a fascist, the poor dear! And insisting that people Tucker doesn't value have rights!

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    [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    So now he will realize he doesn't know shit and shut up, right?

    Right?

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    The Atlantic is the worst

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago

    And because you didnt have the spine to say when it could have made a difference, we are here.

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