I work at a consulting engineering firm and write a lot of reports that are read by the public. I have an opportunity to recommend a different font for all of our written documents and am looking for something more modern/fresh than Times New Roman. Also open to recommendations for purpose specific communities about typography/fonts.

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[–] 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

Intel’s Clear Sans.

IBM’s Plex, I’m particularly partial to their condensed sans.

Fira Sans is a good generic recommendation, their mono is again worth considering.

Adobe’s Source family (sans, serif, mono) is another inoffensive, safe choice.

erewhon is a modern workhorse serif that pairs well with all the sans fonts above. It’s derived from Adobe’s Utopia, which is used in quite a few newspapers (clear and legible without taking too much space).

STIX Two was specifically designed to replace Times New Roman in scientific + mathematical publications, if you’re looking for a font that’s different but familiar to Times New Roman, I could not recommend it enough.

Charis SIL was originally designed for laser printers and later modified for use in linguistics, it’s essentially a serif version of Verdana (same designer too). As with all the other fonts mentioned, very broad character set support.

The TeX font catalogue is a treasure trove in general.

Edit: almost forgot, the Libertinus family also comes recommended for a more ‘professional’ look.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This is super helpful! Fun fact - Erewhon is also a small chain of very high end markets in Los Angeles. Now I'm going to have to research what this word means and who came up with it first.

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    Nohwere? It’s an anagram but it’s not straight up backwards for “nowhere”, at least not quite. Presumably it’s named after the novel, which I knew nothing about before five minutes ago in any event.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    For regular text, something sans-serif that is not fixed width like Calibri.

    For code or numbers, a fixed width sans-serif font like Consolas or Inconsolata.

    Serif fonts definitely have their place, far away from technical documents.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    It feels like low effort to use the default Office font when there are so many other options, but in my sans serif font tests Calibri ended up looking the best so far. I really didn't want to like it! Curious where you think serif fonts belong? I don't know shit about fonts/graphic design...

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    FYI, the new official Office default is Aptos. I've been making work docs with it for a few weeks and I have to admit, it looks really clean and technical.

    https://medium.com/microsoft-design/a-change-of-typeface-microsofts-new-default-font-has-arrived-f200eb16718d

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I write mostly for web, so I don't use serif a lot. I think it's still fine for use with headings.

    If your reports are destined for print, it still belongs, imo.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What counts as print these days though? When I first started working, we'd get literal boxes shipped to us with 1,000+ page documents inside. Now it's a cloud link that opens with a PDF reader. Does that still count as print? Genuinely curious, because I see conflicting advice depending on if its print or not.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Anything literally printed on paper. If you're in PDFs and you know your audience is going to be reading it on a small screen, I'd say stay away from the serif fonts. Especially since you mentioned elsewhere that you're concerned about document length; you can get away with smaller letter tracking size on sans.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Calibri is bad for technical documents because you can't easily tell the difference between I and l.

    Whatever sans serif you use, choose one that makes the difference legible, like Trebuchet or Bierstadt.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Calibri is not actually the default font anymore! In M365, at least. Granted, it will be a long time before it's not recognized as such.

    My company uses Roboto. I like it a lot, but I think it's gotten pretty popular. Do you know about fonts.google.com? Huge library that you can apply filters to, makes it really easy to browse.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I've recently become a proponent of Atkinson Hyperlegible (while discovering I have some vision issues). Not sure if it's appropriate in your industry, but the improvements to accessibility are hard to argue with.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Our designs have to comply with ADA, so accessibility is definitely a familiar consideration. This looks like any other professional looking sans-serif font, so if it's more accessible for low vision/vision impaired people, all the better! I like that uppercase i and lowercase L are distinguishable, which is a personal peeve I have with some sans serif fonts. Thanks for the suggestion!

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It's hard to explain exactly why but switching my ereader over made a night and day difference in my comprehension and reading speed.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This one is going to be an unconventional one but I do love the Ubuntu font and I try to sneak it into some documents I write.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Personally I'm a huge fan of the Kepler Project font. I got hooked on it when I started writing papers in LaTeX.

    http://luc.devroye.org/fonts-47327.html

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    DIN was made for German highway signs. It's pretty good.

    Do not use Georgia, Times New Roman, or Verdana. Those are screen fonts.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Do that one font that's friendlier to dyslexic people. There's actually a reason to use that.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Dyslexie was one of the first fonts I looked at specifically for accessibility purposes. Unfortunately, despite it's utility, it looks too much like a 'fun' font for our documents. Our reports are publicly published for the legal/administrative record, and need to reflect that level of professionalism. :/

    Someone else suggested a font that's helpful for vision impaired people that I will take forward in this process, so maybe I can get a different accessible font through. Really appreciating the thoughtfulness for people with various reading challenges!

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  • Newer research actually says that it mostly doesn't matter. Use a readable sans or serif, there's no measurable difference.[1][2][3]

    [1] Wery, J.J., Diliberto, J.A. The effect of a specialized dyslexia font, OpenDyslexic, on reading rate and accuracy. Ann. of Dyslexia 67, 114–127 (2017). https://doi.org/10.1007/s11881-016-0127-1
    [2] Kuster, S.M., van Weerdenburg, M., Gompel, M. et al. Dyslexie font does not benefit reading in children with or without dyslexia. Ann. of Dyslexia 68, 25–42 (2018). https://doi.org/10.1007/s11881-017-0154-6
    [3] Rello, L., Baeza-Yates, R. How to present more readable text for people with dyslexia. Univ Access Inf Soc 16, 29–49 (2017). https://doi.org/10.1007/s10209-015-0438-8

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)
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    When it doubt, I use Noto Sans.

    If I'm feeling fancy (almost never), I'll choose a serif font for section headings.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    CMU Serif is always a good choice imo.

    Times, which I think NeurIPS uses, is pretty solid.

    Latin Modern Roman is another good one, used by TMLR.

    IBM Plex just looks so nice too.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    I am incredibly partial to Computer Modern Unicode because it’s a Unicode-capable version of the default LaTeX font. I’ve used this web port of Computer Modern for a very long time as well.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago*

    Roboto Slab, Iosevka

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    I usually go with Fira Sans for sans serif, if the document I'm writing isn't super formal. Mixes well with Inconsolata for code and Latin Modern (or other serif stuff) for math.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I was going to say use the old timey fixed width typewriter fonts that the US Army Corps uses (PDF page 5 and beyond), but I guess that they've switched to Times New Roman.

    Maybe use open source fonts like DejaVu and Liberation?

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 years ago

    Definitely need to avoid giant fixed-width fonts. My reports often run close to 100 pgs with Times New Roman, and using a typewriter font would blow them up even more. I'll look into the open source suggestions, thanks!

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