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[–] 100 points 8 months ago (4 children)

That's not far left IMO, that's just left. This is a recurring problem we have in France too, where medias call "far left" parties that are just left. This is a slippery slope, the one on which Overton window slips towards the (far) right...

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  • [–] 74 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Far left is: "We're going to destroy the very concept of private ownership and wealth accumulation"

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  • [–] 42 points 8 months ago* (28 children)

    "... to meet everyone's basic needs"

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The way I see it, between left and far left the direction is roughly the same, that's the means and end point that differ (i.e. revolution or not and how far we go into sharing resources). This is an important difference and they should thus not be mixed.

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    [–] 51 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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    [–] 39 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    You vote left because you want the best for the general good of society, you vote right because you want what's best for yourself, in particular.

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    The sad thing is, that's not even true.

    Most poor world be better off under left wing ideals, yet they vote right wing anyway because they're scared that brown people will steal their crumbs.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

    But rich white men stealing their crumbs is fine because they aren't brown

    Better than Jose over there, a hard working fine gentleman, getting his needs met

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    [–] 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    It's because we lefties say completely justified mean things about so-called 'centrists', and criticizing the literal record of centrism is tantamount to insulting a centrist's identity.

    The centrists made up the term so they wouldn't have to face the fact that they're conservatives.

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago

    From Disco Elysium:

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    They’re just people who are too weak and dumb to have real opinions and they just want to be in the in crowd

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    [–] 12 points 8 months ago

    Can we be better than twitter with these bullshit fallacy arguments.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago

    TranscriptionA Tweet by "Vivian" @suchnerve:

    far left: we're gonna get everyone's basic needs met

    far right: we're gonna exterminate entire social groups because they're impure

    centrists: i literally cannot tell you two apart

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Your “far-left” is the centric, your “centric” are fascist accepting far-right, and your “far-right” is right extreme fascists…

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    [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    Even the left normalized the false narrative of “far left”. America does not have any “far left” party

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    Fishhook theory > horseshoe theory

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago*

    Too bad the left has never had power in the US

    Neoliberals don't want or allow things to improve

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (13 children)

    I mean to be fair... groups that consider themselves far left also exterminate groups.

    The trick is to not go too far. You wanna end up at Scandinavian liberal socialism, but not overshoot it to let's create a famine for kicks and kill all people wearing glasses.

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  • [–] 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    I mean to be fair... groups that consider themselves far left also exterminate groups

    [Citation needed]

    The trick is to not go too far

    Yeah, you wouldn't want society to become TOO egalitarian and fair! 🙄

    You wanna end up at Scandinavian liberal socialism

    Speaking as an actual Scandinavian leftie: nope. Not good enough.

    Social Democratic Liberalism (which is what it actually is. Socialism is a very different thing) is still capitalist and thus exploitative at its core.

    It's better than most, but it's far from the utopian ideal that people from the American Left tend to think it is.

    but not overshoot it to let's create a famine for kicks and kill all people wearing glasses

    You're thinking along the wrong axis there. There's a HUGE difference between ultra authoritarian leftism like that of the USSR and Pol Pot's Cambodia, and libertarian (original meaning, not bastardized American definition) leftism.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    So anything thats acturally left wing is bad? Because left wing means genuene real socialism, as in not capitalism socialism. As in the type of socialism that doesn't require oppressing the global south (which shouldn't even be a question).

    LIBERALISM = REACTIONARY

    SOCIALISM = REVOLUTIONARY

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