If you find one, you find a group cos like attracts attracts like.

top 50 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] 243 points 11 months ago (20 children)

Rapists know they'd be punished and/or shunned if they spoke of their crimes, so they don't talk about it.

Victims on the other hand are encouraged to seek help; talking through the trauma as a means of coping and healing.

It only makes sense the victim would be more commonly known about than the offender.

On top of that; a rapist is more likely to have created multiple victims, it's not just a 1:1 comparison.

  • source
  • hideshow 21 child comments
  • [–] 74 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    This is the most logical conclusion.

    Although I will say, I've met people that openly admitted to terrible behavior. Not rape, but very shitty things nontheless.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • load more comments (19 replies)
    [–] 104 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Because the same few guys are raping a lot of different women.

    Because most non-rapist guys choose not to associate with predatory guys, while the latter's victims didn't have a choice in the matter.

  • source
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • load more comments (4 replies)
    [–] 83 points 11 months ago (25 children)

    It bothers me that anyone pointing to the majority of men who are not rapists, is getting branded as a rape apologist.

    As a guy, I can say with certainty that I've never been involved in, nor known about anyone who was the perpetrator of rape.

    I firmly believe that the perpetrators, specifically the male perpetrators of rape, if they tell anyone, they say it as a regular sexual encounter. Ladies, we don't go into details taking about who did what in the bedroom. The most I've ever heard from any guy about their sexual exploits, is that they happened "I banged her" (or similar), and sometimes a quip about the experience or the person, eg: "it was great" or "she's a freak (in bed)" or similar.

    The reason we don't know that the people we know are rapists, is because they're not coming out and telling us about it. I promise, if they did, they wouldn't be free for long. They'd either end up in jail, or beaten bloody by the majority of us (or worse).

    Generally we just don't say much about what happens in the bedroom, to eachother.

  • source
  • hideshow 26 child comments
  • [–] 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    Agreed.

    I am a man and I am a victim of repeated child sexual abuse. It has broken me forever. While I don't feel comfortable explaining what effects it had on me, let's say that I'll never be a normal functioning person because of what was done to me.

    To what you said I would like to add that some of us are victims too and being generalized and then labeled as rapists or apologists is so fucking triggering, it's actually madening. The idea of being associated with my perpetrator is intolerable.

    I get it that sexual misconducts are more prevalent in men, but something like 1 in 6 boys will experience some sort of sexual abuse. That is a shitton of victims being labeled as rapist apologists.

    Anyways, like you, I think we can have this discussion without aggressively accusing all members of a given gender.

    Especially lately with all the Epstein stuff being discussed, I'm sure I'm not the only one feeling trapped in a constant spiral of flashbacks and stuck in a non-stop dissociated state especially that there is no accountability in sight.

    In any cases, let's have compassion for all the victims no matter their gender or sex and let's focus our anger toward the abusers.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • load more comments (24 replies)
    [–] 68 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

    Did you know that alienating men and making them feel like bad people for things they themselves didn’t do doesn’t do anything to help anyone?

    I had a good friend who turned out to have murdered his girlfriend. He did not confide that in us. We weren’t just hanging out with some guy who murdered just girlfriend because we were ok with that. All of us changed our view and opinion of this person and not a one has remained their acquaintance after it came out.

    I bet I know someone who has raped someone. I wouldn’t willingly associate with them if I knew, and they’re likely not going to out themselves. I know that none of the people I know would continue to associate with someone like that if we knew.

    People hide shit, people do awful things, othering and hating only makes out groups and creates greater rifts.

    This picture makes a pretty good point BUT when lodged as a bomb at half the population it’s like punching a lifeguard in the mouth.

  • source
  • hideshow 7 child comments
  • load more comments (7 replies)
    [–] 57 points 11 months ago (53 children)

    If 1 in 100 men is a rapist, then he can rape a lot more women than 1 in 100. Very few people are responsible for most occasions, similarly with divorces, etc.

    Also why would anyone admit to being a rapist?

  • source
  • hideshow 53 child comments
  • load more comments (53 replies)
    [–] 53 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    RAINN says only 3% of men commit it.

    So I’d say that’s why most men don’t know a rapist.

  • source
  • hideshow 9 child comments
  • load more comments (3 replies)
    [–] 51 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Who tf would go around admitting to serious crimes that'll get you shunned from most circles?

  • source
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • load more comments (1 reply)
    [–] 45 points 11 months ago* (3 children)

    I am a man. I do not know the answer to this question and it's fucking disturbing.

    Edit: I spent 30 more seconds thinking about it and realized that victims who speak are heard, but almost no perpetrator thinks they're doing anything wrong.

  • source
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] 31 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    yeah..... also male here. i.......... never really thought about this. if i dont know any rapists, that means i probably do know rapists that i dont know are rapists.

    well fuck.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 9 child comments
  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Nah unlikely. Rape is mostly a corruption issue i think, like sex trafficking.

    This study of 12600 college students indicates that 87% of rape was committed by serial rapists , and 46% is committed by individuals who have committed 10+ rapes. overall 5% of surveyed students admitted to some form of rape while under the influence of alcohol, but 20% of women and 7% of men report being raped in the past.

    The thing about a serial rapist - they must have some means of keeping women from reporting them, or getting away with it repeatably.

    These people tend to use dogwhistles and form cliques, and once one gets into a position of power they get all their buddies up too to protect one another.

    Letcher county is an example of a ring that got busted open recently. The rural towns judge and deputy and their buddies basically threatened and coerced underage girls and their families into fucking them and attending diddy parties. The sheriff found his daughters number in the judges phone and shot him.

    Police do this regularly too in the USA, some places are better than others but the whole brotherhood and solidarity shit is basically their dogwhistle saying 'we commit crime and cover for eachother.' The louder they say it the worse they are. So naturally they attract rapists and murderers to join them, and fire out anyone that may blow the whistle on em.

    Its the same thing with weinstein, epstein, diddy, in the military, and probably trump with the republican party. A ringleader gets some power, grows their sphere of influence and uses it to gate opportunity or threaten women into sex acts. Rinse and repeat for decades and decades and you get a very small percent of people spreading stds like theyre halloween candies.

    And once people are in theres no getting out. Thats why epstein and diddy film everything, blackmail.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • load more comments (7 replies)
  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    It's really not. If a rapist rapes several women, there's a 1xN distribution. Then they think they did nothing wrong, so they won't mention they raped someone, but that they had some fun with someone, if you don't know them well you might think they meant they had a date which what normal people do.

    So, less perpetrators than victims and perpetrators either don't think they did it or they know and don't say it. It's normal for regular men not to know. I'm a man and I know of victims, not perpetrators.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • [+] 43 points 11 months ago* (2 children)
  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago

    Man here as well. I was sexually assaulted at work. Company did nothing but I did spend some time in a mental ward due to having panic attacks coming back into the office.

    Assaulter was a man, never got fired. I was kinda told to deal with it.


    I don't think I'm friends with any rapists but it's hard to tell. I had a friend that gets like a large number of hits on Tinder and basically hooks up really often with a new chick. One day, he described how he treated one of his girls that he wanted to settle down with, I was a bit horrified. He was saying things like, "she really thought she was at my level, I had to tell her I was number one in this relationship", "I had to separate her from her friends they were getting on my nerves". I was like ... oh shit, this guy's a possible abuser. I just kinda stopped hanging out with the dude. That girl did eventually dump him which he was sobbing to me about.

    I try to avoid people like that to be honest.

  • source
  • parent
  • load more comments (1 reply)
    [–] 43 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    When I'm having beers with my buddies we mostly talk about sports, sometimes work and random other bullshit like movies and such.

    It's actually very rare for dudes to discuss felonies they've committed.

  • source
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • load more comments (8 replies)
    [–] 39 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    So, this is a fun one:

    1. A rapist often has more than one victim.

    2. Someone who disclosed to one person may well have disclosed to many.

    3. Rapists tend not to self-disclose.

    4. The definition of rape is badly established between both parties (it's an absolute minefield).

    What you end up with is lots of small factors giving the illusion of a higher frequency by counting the same predator twice among women, and you also have factors that may cause predators not to be counted by men giving the illusion of a lower frequency.

  • source
  • hideshow 11 child comments
  • load more comments (11 replies)
    [–] 35 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    This is - and I cannot overstate it - a joke.

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • load more comments (2 replies)
    [–] 35 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    Im a survivor of childhood sexual assault and im a man.

    P.s. my abuser was a woman

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • load more comments (2 replies)
    [–] 29 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    I do know a rapist. Unfortunately I only found out she was a rapist when she raped me.

  • source
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • load more comments (6 replies)
    [–] 26 points 11 months ago

    Plenty of men know Trump

  • source
  • [–] 25 points 11 months ago

    well it's very common knowledge that men don't confide in each other as much as women do.

  • source
  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    FWIW I have had to excommunicate multiple people from my life based on credible accusations of sexual assault. One of them was my best friend.

  • source
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • load more comments (3 replies)
    [–] 19 points 11 months ago

    I did, actually. Our college never did anything about him and I don't believe he got into legal trouble. We did kick him off of our special dorm floor at least. Piece of shit.

  • source
  • load more comments
    view more: next ›