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[–] 152 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This makes sense if cruelty is the point.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Not just cruelty. Someone else in another thread pointed out this is exactly what you would do if you're afraid of a civil war. Now, you've got an easily defended government center, and a large amount of people out in the streets that any opposing force will have to fight through in order to get to any of the governmental buildings (though really, we're only caring about the WH). Additionally, you have an oceanfront escape route if shit goes poorly.

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  • [–] 78 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    It’s never about the cost. It’s always about the hate.

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    [–] 46 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    Same as it ever was.

    The Cruelty Is The Point.

    They'd put all the money in a literal pile and set it on literal fire before they'd just help people who need the help.

    If I had to characterize the US govt when it comes to helping its citizens I'd compare it to Immortan Joe.

    Immortan Joe: Do not, my friends, become addicted to water. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!

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    [+] 37 points 11 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (23 children)
  • [–] 40 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I keep seeing Americans post things like this. There's no one coming to save you.

    The American people are the ones who need to be making those demands. The government should fear the people, not the other way around. Isn't this scenario exactly why there's the second amendment?

    Sorry to say that this problem has been allowed to progress to the point where it will be neither convenient nor easy to solve. It's going to take consistent collective action.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago

    why is there no one with the authority to deem him unfit to govern, and demand that he step down under duress of consequences?

    There is, it's called impeachment followed by a vote to remove. That vote can't pass without Republicans joining in, and they likely won't.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    The people. Americans. That's what we're waiting on.

    the issue is unlike other nations in the world American law enforcement and the military will NOT hesitate to point a tank barrel in your face and pull the trigger. They are MORE than willing to fly the air force over some random town in Ohio and turn it into a parking lot. In places like France the people can riot for being told that Paper should not be thrown in the recycling bin anymore because French Authorities aren't going to start a mass slaughter of their people, American authorities on the other hand have very little regard for their fellow man.

    I was one of those Canadians wondering "why aren't the people fighting back?" but now I get it. Chances are if the American people start fighting back a good massive chunk of them will be killed. So the question now is are the American people willing to literally DIE for their country? I don't blame a single one of them if they answer "no."

    Because lets be honest here why throw your life away for a country that has already turned it's back on you WELL before a Nazi wannabe dictator took office. Make no mistake Americans were STILL struggling under Democratic leadership. So I don't blame them. They're tired, they're all barely surviving, their healthcare is tied directly to their employment (by design). Systems have been building and put in place for decades to ensure they DON'T rebel. Most Americans live paycheque to paycheque. The healthcare they do pay out the ass for is already pretty shitty. So fighting for ones country means you and your family no longer eat, no longer have a place to sleep, no longer have healthcare. again, this is by design.

    If you've ever wondered how other Dictatorships in the world took power, this is how, this is EXACTLY how. Leverage already established systems, crank them a bit more, take and hold power.

    The cards have been MASSIVELY stacked against the American people for a good long while now. Frankly, rebelling isn't an option. Like Oliver they now have to hold their wooden bowls infront of Furor Trump and ask "Please sir, may I have another?"

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    [–] 28 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    I'm very supportive out housing the homeless as a fix, but to be clear math is on a per-day basis, it isn't some sort of long term fix.

    I hate these stupid math headlines that don't actually make any sense.

    Current deployment costs are around $1.1 million per day, housing all of those people in shelters at $45 per person works out to something like $250,000 per day.

    This math calculation entirely ignores the fact that there aren't enough shelters to actually do that.

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  • [–] 26 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    It's a simplistic calculation, but it does seem that often doing the right thing ends up cheaper in the long run. It just doesn't benefit certain groups, so it's not an option. If a million a day was applied to not just pay for sheltering, but to find solutions there wouldn't be a problem to throw authoritative measures at, or use as a reason to tighten security and control. They don't want to fix the problem, it works for them.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    They will happily spend $10, $20, $40, $100 from the working class to put even an extra penny in the hands of the capitalist class

    Michael Parenti talking about American empire and it's cost to the workers in the imperial core.

    Which is fitting because I believe he also said (or he quoted someone that did)

    Fascism is Imperialism turned inwards.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    When communist were forced on Poland by soviets in 1945 one of their tasks for the next decade (that continued until 1980 collapse) was to build houses and give it to people. Other tasks were less nice like killing opposition, but housing was indeed how they decided to spent the resources.

    US could start a massive communal housing programm on federal budget. They chose not to.

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    [–] 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Cruelty is the point. I really don't think this country will ever change in any positive direction, sadly.

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    [–] 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Nominative determinism strikes again.

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    [–] 20 points 11 months ago

    Look up how much we send to Israel to conduct a genocide

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago

    Even without the occupation, housing-first costs less.

    The End of Policing.

    According to Need

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    countless after countless studies showed UBI will eliminate homelessness and wasteful bureaucracy to keep watch of welfare recipients and cheats

    Everyone: Nah, we don't do that here.

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    [–] 18 points 11 months ago*

    People say these facts, but not the base fact that all these facts prove which is that this lifestyle and the narrative created is completely bullshit and we are being farmed. That's our reality but it's so fucked up nobody wants to believe it. Psychological warfare owns the path of society.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago

    What a waste.

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Sure but helping the homeless would make them actual Christians following the teachings of Christ and we know that now what Republican Christians do.

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Breaking news Trump is a moron

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    [–] 14 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    What would happen if we just fixed stuff. Like, the wealthy can still have it all, but then stuff wouldn’t be broken. Just like, fix things. When is someone going to step up and just pay to fix stuff?

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    [–] 13 points 11 months ago

    The man is world famous as a money mismanager

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (1 child)
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    [–] 10 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I think the top 2 comments i see ascribing this to ‘hate’ and ‘cruelty’ are missing the point. This literally is better for the capitalists’ bottom line. This can be entirely attributed to profit. The threat of violence (homelessness, etc) that the working class is kept precipitously close to powers this whole machine. If everybody was housed the threat of poverty would have less material consequence. Cruelty is not the point, in this case. Neither hate. Simply profit. Which in many ways is much more cold and insidious

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    [–] 9 points 11 months ago

    president "epstein" trying very hard to shift public focus away from himself, and the fact that ghislaine being on work release isnt gaining more attention is something.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago

    "Showy? Useless? Expensive? Hurts poor people? Sounds pretty good but are you sure there is no way to put a yuge golden TRUMP sign on it?"

    Trump (probably)

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago

    Eric Adams Syndrome: Spend $1,500 to save $1

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    Trump is a moron.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    He was never that good at numbers, that Donald guy.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    The cruelty is the point

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