Odysee is a nonstarter for me with its lack of moderation, resulting in a lot of right-wing hate filled garbage. Also, their thing with using some virtual currency and paying creators is weird. I want no part of cryptocurrency or "space dollars" or whatever they want to call it. PeerTube is ideal but not enough people are posting to it, which is frustrating. Youtube frontends, like invidious, are our best solution until creators move to something else.

If anyone is interested in peertube, there's an awesome collection of channels here: https://piefed.social/f/fediversevideos

There's also a number of peertube related communities: !peertube@lemmy.world

Hope to see you all there!

100% Especially since Google is cracking down on alternative front ends like freetube and blocking VPN IPs

The hard part will be to convince creators to go to platforms where they don't get paid

I spent better than a month blocking all of the extreme right content and bullshiy on Odyssey. There's not enough content left to fill 15 minutes of my day

I set up new pipe attached it to Peer tube there's a couple of people on there that are okay but hardly anything. Completely lacking any form of monitization, peer tube just lacks creators like mad.

Odyssey and rumble are just cesspools, and peer tube is starved for anybody half decent.

Nah, hard pass on Odysee.

Lots of people test the alternatives, find they actually really do like the comfort of the YouTube bubble and go back.

Most people are not going to be hard core free speech advocates who will ignore/block what they don't like.

Any chance of competition requires algorithmic discovery, censorship (to the users biases), and transparency across platforms

Apps like grayjay that pull content from multiple platforms seamlessly is a good first step in making video streaming fungible.

Why is there no piracytube? If anyone watches smth from youtube, they automatically seed them. And it shares videos via p2p. If you wanna support the creator, almost all have patreon or smth.

You don't need to know creators

Watch on Odysee adon will automatically switch to Odysee if the video is available on both platforms.
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PeerTube Companion auto switch to PeerTube
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Well it's not like we can follow a youtuber on peertube, odysee or bitchute if they don't post on those platforms.

Use Grayjay, it pulls in all the platforms

Really hope PeerTube continues to be built up! Would be nice as an alternative.

When it comes to European content, especially the Czech and Slovak ones, there is no alternative in the case of YouTube. Every content creator here is on Meta's platforms, Reddit, and/or YouTube. So the only way to watch them without ads (I'm supporting some of them via superchats) is to use an AdBlock or an alternative frontend like Tubular.

One thing I think is that such platforms are built to manipulate the user into staying with them. Having what feels to be ADHD, I can have several different interests at once, and if they're done online, it's always miserable to cycle through sites to check one or two things, and so the interest to check such smaller platforms starts waning.
One thing I have found that helps mitigate the problem is aggregation systems, like RSS readers, Grayjay, NewPipe and the sort.
Maybe tools like those would be a start? Several of Youtube's alternatives support RSS and are supported by either/both NewPipe and Grayjay (with some overlap and plans to expand from each).
Also if the user is bent on ditching Youtube completely, but doesn't want to make a hard cut, doing a transition instead, Youtube also has RSS and integration to both players.

Freetube has an update today (at least for Linux). Seems to be working much better now.

There's one called glomble that's picking up a little. Granted it needs people to donate to the platform as well if they want things to load faster than 30 megabits per minute

If you are watching it just for entertainment/timepass, youtube must not be it.

Is Odysee even decentralized still?

I mostly watch youtube on a fire tv stick as background crap.

A solution that I’m inching towards is just cutting the time I spend watching videos.

After years upon years watching YouTube and finally arriving at degoogling I’m starting to get to the point where I open up yt and … it’s not scratching that itch anymore. The realisation that this time is wasted and could’ve been spent on doing stuff that matters is nagging in my head.

Not to mention the thought of feeding big tech data that might end up aiding another atrocity unto humanity.

I can get my news elsewhere (here for example), tutorials might take some reading instead.

I’m not saying I’m gonna go cold turkey day one and be successful at it. But the idea is growing.

The main issue with YouTube alternatives that makes people not want to move is they can no longer watch their favorite creators because none of them want to move from YouTube. Especially the ones whos entire JOB is making YouTube content.