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How's the experience? I tried it on fp4 1-2 years ago, and it was pretty unstable for daily driving at the time. I returned to android for a while, and now I'm running PostmarketOS on this. It works reasonably well, but phone call audio doesn't work yet (speakers altogether started working just earlier this year) and that's kind of a dealbreaker. The development is also slow, as all the work is done by a single person (huge kudos to Luca Weiss).

So I'm thinking to maybe give Ubuntu Touch a shot. Tell me your experiences with it on a fp4.

Bonus question: wireguard is pretty important to my day-to-day life. Is it yet working? I remember that it was broken, couldn't install it due to something about drivers... There were workarounds, none of them worked on a fp4.

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I just ordered a FairPhone 5 for the purpose of test-driving any reasonable Linux solutions on it. My eventual preference will probably be Mobian or Postmarket OS with plasma-mobile, but those appear to require additional dev time before they're practical daily drivers, especially on the FP5. Ubuntu Touch appears to be a reasonably mature option, and they specifically single out the FairPhone 5 on their website as the best supported hardware right now. I believe this maturity may be largely due to utilizing closed source Android blobs to drive phone hardware which isn't ideal for us FOSS purists but at least has the advantage of accelerating their dev efforts.

I assume this won't become my main phone right away, but I'm curious whether this community believes Ubuntu Touch (or something else) on a FP5 could potentially be a reasonable daily driver by now. A similar post from about year ago answered No, though their question didn't specify which hardware.

Thoughts? Maybe an alternate distro I should at look at for the FP5 specifically?

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This might be useful to some people that want to use a DHL Packstation, but use a Linux phone and don't want to run the proprietary app in Waydroid.

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Waydroid has been packaged and is now available in Unstable: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/waydroid

It should be available in Testing in a few days.

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/46776421

Title. I made a space to try and encapsulate all the known Linux Mobile Projects. Ideally this could've been a list or directory of sorts, but since I didn't find one, I kinda just decided to make one. - it's inspired by postmarketOS' space.

You can find it at #mobile-linux-rooms:nope.chat -- Could've had a better name but frankly couldn't think of a better name at the time.

Includes

  • PostmarketOS
  • NixOS (whole)
  • Mobian (Unofficial Space made for this)
  • Droidian
  • UBPorts
  • Fedora PocketBlue
  • OpenSUSE Mobile
  • SailfishOS (Unofficial Space made for this)
  • Pine64 (whole)
  • KDE (whole)
  • Phosh
  • Gnome Mobile (room only)
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I'm not too knowledgeable about cellular equipment, but I was wondering how much of the phone based data actually gets to the SIM card.

Would it be possible, by sniffing the connection to the card, to listen to the content of calls and mobile data? Or would it be possible to get tower information in a similar format to rayhunter?

I understand there is some encryption, would getting the keys for that enable some of the previous ideas?

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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by to c/linuxphones@lemmy.ml
 
 

I have several noob questions about Linux on mobile

  1. Why can you brick android phone by installing custom ROM. But such thing can't happen on x86? Or how likely is that. From what I read it is because it doesn't have bios and you can overwrite phone hardware drivers how true is that with recent devices? And I assume it is impossible to recower from software bricking?
  2. Is that true that on Halium kernel distribution you can't use universal packages (flatpak, nix, snap, appimage), only precompiled for its specyfic system only? Is there any bypass of that to use something like apk like on android? Or are there any disadvantages to use it apart from EOL security.
  3. Is there any good list how to start with Linux on phone? List of devices (probably oneplus 6, pixel 3a, fairphone 4), distros (probably Ubuntu touch, mobian, postmarketOS). The smoothest experience, preferably with dual boot.
  4. Is there some recomended tablets to test with Linux mobile? It seems preferred way for me considering calling, camera and other issues which are on Linux mobile. Is recomended devices from postmarketos tablet tab?
  5. Why battery life is worse on Linux than on android, I watched some reviews and they complained about short battery life.
  6. I watched someone run Linux distros by clicking on android quick settings tray and it opened Linux desktop, but it was not mobile. How it is called and is there a way to run it with plasma mobile?
  7. Is porting for newer devices getting easier with time or is getting harder?
  8. How is process of jailbreaking with locked bootloader done? Can it be automated?
  9. Is there megatread or some wiki with some basic question like these?

Thanks for answers. Sorry for long text.

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Just got the modem on the Xperia 10 III working.

Want a small Linux phone with 5G?

It's even water-proof and cheap!

Help getting the few remaining components working and this could exist soon. ;-)

Main thing I need help with is audio. I have no idea about this, but it'd allow me to try it as a daily driver, which would help to get more stuff working.

My own Mobian build works well already. The plan is to get the remaining kernel support, upstream patches and then add the remaining bits for Mobian.

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youtu.be/U4e3znNi98Q?si=fLFsyE…

Hi all, the friendly neighborhood #sxmo stan here.

Apps listed per appearance:
#wpaperd - dissolve transition, super slow
#foot - people hate my theme for it... but I'm happy lol
#yazi
#pfetch-rs
#wf-recorder
#librewolf with firefox minima css & #tridactly addon for a qutebrowser experience
irccloud (prefer halloy but.... yeah)
wvkbd-mobintl with #suggapicker and #swipeGuess
#gomuks web (currently my favorite #matrix client) with beeper.com for lazy bridges
wofi - i have single, double, and triple down gestures for each different screen
a couple scripts i made but most i stole modified from the great codeberg.org/magdesign/sxmop6
mingle

and yes that was #morrowind via #openmw

#postmarketos @linuxphones @linuxphones @linmob

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In this issue: Two XMPP Events, learn about Spaces in XMPP, a new XMPP MUC BanBot, Self-hosting UnifiedPush with Conversations as Distributor, a new member of the Slidge family, and a complete translation of JoinJabber to Portuguese (BR). …

Posting this here as we need open and decentralised communications systems and not just a phone running FOSS. :)

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eSIM: lpac now in Debian repos (packages.debian.org)
submitted 3 months ago by to c/linuxphones@lemmy.ml
 
 

This is the first time something I've packaged has become part of the Debian repos.

Now lpac can be installed from Unstable and allows you to set up your eSIM on Debian phones.

It will be available in Debian Testing in two days: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/lpac

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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by to c/linuxphones@lemmy.ml
 
 

I'd rather continue working on mainlining the Xperia 10 III, but now I apparently have to figure out how to revert the latest changes on https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Sony_Xperia_10_III_(sony-pdx213)

The edit added generated slop. The linked repo contains generated code. Instead of editing the device tree, it — in an amazingly dumb way — uses a Python script to search and replace two words in the device tree.

Pretty sure editing the file is easier.

Also, it is based on an old 6.12 kernel. A lot of the things done in that repo are questionable at best.

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I am looking forward to changing out my Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra. But I am very confused of what to choose, of the many options. Here is some criteria you guys could maybe help me choose the perfect fit from:

1: has to be able to use some android apps still, because of government- & banking applications. 2: the car runs it's own android system, but android auto would be nice to still have. 3: It would be awesome to be able to use the linux phone as a pc as well. I loved the videos I have seen from ubuntu touch, where you just connect to a screen through usb c and you have a desktop environment. That is just awesome! 4: I am kind of pro EU. So if the OS is developed in europe and the phone that supports it from the factory is also EU based, it's a huge plus in my book. Not a deal breaker though. My trusy on USA has just dissapeared sadly.

Hope someone will be able to help me out here! Thank you.

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Samsung disabling bootloader unlock and what Google is doing with Android reminded me that Bootloader Unlock Wall of Shame exists.
And also that FSF's LibrePhone project exists, but not much progress has been seen from that.

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Jolla may not be a household name, but for more than a decade the Finnish company has positioned its Linux-based Sailfish OS as an alternative to the mobile software duopoly that is Google’s Android and Apple’s iOS.

Now, 13 years since it tried to cut through the market with the Jolla Phone—a device which remarkably received software updates through 2020—it's back with a successor of the same name.

This time, the company is positioning its handset as the “European phone.” This bit of marketing caters to the growing distrust in US digital services and platforms that has arisen since Big Tech sidled up to the second Trump administration.

The new Jolla Phone (pronounced “Yolla”) costs €649, mimics the Scandinavian design of the original, and has secured more than 10,000 preorders since its preview in December 2025. Those orders are expected to begin shipping at the end of June. At Mobile World Congress 2026 in Barcelona this week, the company divulged more details about the phone's hardware.

Alt Android

Jolla has had a turbulent history. After the company floundered the launch of its Jolla Tablet in 2015, it nearly went bankrupt and pivoted to licensing Sailfish OS to automotive companies and governments, including Russia. After the invasion of Ukraine, Jolla had to cut ties with Russia, and a corporate restructuring meant that Jolla's assets were acquired by the company's former management under a new company called Jollyboys.

It got back into the smartphone game in 2024 with the Jolla C2 Community Phone, made in collaboration with a local Turkish company, and it was this experience that gave Jolla the courage to jump back into the hardware business with the new Jolla Phone. Unlike the C2, this device is completely assembled in Salo, Finland, where Nokia phones were manufactured more than a decade ago.

“Europeans want more European technology,” Sami Pienimäki, CEO of Jolla Mobile, tells WIRED. “People want to go away from Big Tech, and the other trend is that European people want sovereign tech—it makes it possible for our kind of company to have a position in the market.”

Building a smartphone from scratch was also much harder over a decade ago, but today, Pienimäki says the operation can be fairly lean without having to “pay too much up-front.”

The components are sourced from various vendors and countries. The MediaTek Dimensity 7100 5G chip hails from Taiwan; the 50-megapixel main and 13-megapixel ultrawide camera sensors are from Sony; the 8 or 12 GB of RAM is from SK Hynix in South Korea.

“There are Chinese components as well—we are totally open about it—but the key is that, as we compile the software ourselves and install it in Finland, we protect the integrity of the product,” Pienimäki says.

What makes Sailfish OS unique over competitors like GrapheneOS and e/OS is that it's not based on the Android Open Source Project, but Linux. That means it has no ties to Google—no need for the company to “deGoogle” the software; meaning there's a greater sense of sovereignty over the software (and now the hardware). Still, it's able to run Android apps, though the implementation isn't perfect. Another common criticism is that it's not as secure as options like GrapheneOS, where every app is sandboxed.

There's a good chance some Android apps on Sailfish OS will run into issues, which is why in the startup wizard the phone will ask if you want to install services like MicroG—open source software that can run Google services on devices that don't have the Google Play Store, making it an easier on-ramp for folks coming from traditional smartphones without a technical background. You don't even need to create a Sailfish OS account to use the Jolla Phone.

Jolla’s effort is hardly the first to push the anti–Big Tech narrative. A wave of other hardware and software companies offer a deGoogled experience, whether that’s Murena from France and its e/OS privacy-friendly operating system or the Canadian GrapheneOS, which just announced a partnership with Motorola. At CES earlier this year, the Swiss company Punkt also teamed up with ApostrophyOS to deploy its software on the new MC03 smartphone. Jolla is following a broader European trend of reducing reliance on US companies, like how French officials ditched Zoom for French-made video conference software earlier this year.

Murena CEO and founder Gaël Duval wrote in a statement emailed to WIRED that the company believes it has a different mission from the Jolla Phone as it's trying to bring the existing mobile app ecosystem—minus the permanent data collection by Google and third-party trackers—without a learning curve for the average person. “We want to make privacy possible for the everyday person without the need for technical expertise or a development background,” he says.

The Phone

A common problem with these niche smartphones is that they inevitably end up costing a lot of money for the specs. Take the Light Phone III, for example, a fairly low-tech anti-smartphone that doesn't enjoy the benefits of economies of scale, resulting in an outlandish $699 price. The Jolla Phone is in a similar boat, though the specs-to-value ratio is a little more respectable.

It's powered by a midrange MediaTek Dimensity 7100 5G chip with 8 GB of RAM, 256 GB of storage, plus a microSD card slot and dual-SIM tray. There's a 6.36-inch 1080p AMOLED screen, the two main cameras, and a 32-megapixel selfie shooter. The 5,500-mAh battery cell is fairly large considering the phone's size, though the phone's connectivity is a little dated, stuck with Wi-Fi 6 and Bluetooth 5.4.

Uniquely, the Jolla Phone brings back “The Other Half” functional rear covers from the original. These swappable back covers have pogo pins that interface with the phone, allowing people to create unique accessories like a second display on the back of the phone or even a keyboard attachment. There's an Innovation Program where the community can cocreate functional covers together and 3D-print them. And yes, a removable rear cover means the Jolla Phone's battery is user-replaceable.

Pienimäki says that while the device doesn't have FCC approval, you can theoretically import it into the US, and it should work with the major US carriers, though compatibility is rarely a given. Jolla is considering a separate US launch, though right now it's focusing on the European Union, the UK, Norway, and Switzerland.

Antti Saarnio, Jolla Group’s chairperson, reiterates that the Jolla Phone will be a niche product. “Most of the people using Android or iOS will not switch, but we should treat this as a stepping stone for something new,” Saarnio says. The “path to real volume” will come from the mobile market breaking down into new form factors, powered by artificial intelligence.

He's likely referring to Jolla's Mind2, a privacy-focused AI computer, which is still in active development. It plugs into a PC and connects Jolla's AI assistant to apps like email and calendar locally—no cloud access required. The chatbot-like interface lets you ask it questions about your data, whether you're fishing for something from an email or a private message. While the new Jolla Phone won't have any AI capabilities at launch, Saarnio says an integration will be an option users can enable later this year.

Jolla has street cred for supporting its devices for a long time, but we'll have to wait and see how the fresh hardware holds up and just how much the company has polished the Sailfish OS experience, especially since it's much easier today to get started with a deGoogled Android alternative.

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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by to c/linuxphones@lemmy.ml
 
 

swapped out the battery on my old Oneplus 6T with a used battery. the readings are kinda off, any way to reset that?

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Finally got around to getting a cheap SIM to play around with secondary devices. I threw it into my Ubuntu Touch OnePlus Nord N10 for fun and was absolutely shocked to see that VoLTE worked and calls worked perfect! Last I looked VoLTE was still in heavy development and far off. This is awesome, and the biggest hurdle to daily driving UT in the USA as we can only call on VoLTE.

Now RCS support would be awesome but I'm not sure if that's doable.

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Any Kiwix client? (news.erebion.eu)
submitted 5 months ago by to c/linuxphones@lemmy.ml
 
 

Do we have any Kiwix client that works on Linux phones?

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Unofficial client for the TooGoodToGo API

Thought this might be interesting in case anyone is looking for a way to build an app that helps reduce food waste while at the same time providing cheap food. :)

I don't know anything about building GUI applications and will go back to mainlining... o/

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Fluux Messenger: A fast, modern, cross-platform XMPP client for communities and organizations. - processone/fluux-messenger

Screenshos from the repo:

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No aarch64 builds yet, but I have opened an issue. Might have a look at building this, as I cannot wait to try this on my phone (Pixel 3a/Mobian).

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The kickstarter for the Mecha Comet just launched the other day and I am seriously considering backing it as I love the idea of the device as a whole.

Originally when I heard about the project a couple of years back I thought it would be good to have to try and replace my phone for the most part but still have a phone handset setup solely to run as a hotspot for the Comet to run through. Now with the launch of the kickstarter I see that there is actually a physical sim card slot and an LTE modem available so maybe it could be used outright as a phone without needing a second device to use as a modem!

Is anyone familiar with this device beyond the info detailed in the kickstarter? I'd be interested to hear further details if anyone has any, maybe someone here has had hands on experience with some of the units that were shown at CES (I think it was there)

Do you guys think it would be viable to use as your only handset?

I guess I'm mostly looking for more knowledgeable peoples opinions on it but also make people aware of it if they hadn't heard of it to hopefully get some more people interested as on the face of it it seems like a really interesting project!

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