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[–] 83 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Take over? Not llms. Destroy the world by accelerating climate change? Absolutely.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I get the spirit, but it's capitalism that accelerates climate change. LLMs are just the new blockchain scapegoat.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You're both right. Capitalism accelerates climate change but so does the outrageous electricity requirements of LLMs.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Many human activities cause climate change. LLMs are a relatively new one, and a disproportionate energy user, so it's fair enough to shout about it and try to minimise adoption. Things that are already entrenched like consumer culture or aviation will be harder and slower to undo.

    Also, whether it's right or not that capitalism is largely to blame, if you take that to mean that the only useful action against climate change is fighting against capitalism, or let yourself feel like you've 'done your part' by having anticapitalist opinions, I think that's counterproductive.

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  • [–] 65 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    People with no clue about AI are exactly why a dumb-as-a-brick LLM could very well end up destroying the world.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    No, that scenario comes from AI's use in eliminating opponents of fascism

    It's pretty funny that while everyone is whining about artist rights and making a huge fucking deal about delusional people who think they've 'birthed' the first self aware AI, Palantir is using our internet histories to compile a list of dissidents to target

    Screenshotting for my eventual ban.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    AI does not exist. Large language models are not intelligent, they are language models.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This can't be true...... Businesses wouldn't reshape their entire portfolios, spending billions of dollars on a technology with limited to no utility. Ridiculous.

    Anyways, I got these tulip bulbs to sell, real cheap, just like give me your house or something.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Remember, investment in LLM infrastructure on the US is currently larger than consumer spending.

    And they will cut interest rates soon, so expect the number to go up (the investment number, that is, not value).

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  • Can confirm, I’m an electrical engineer working on a power substation supplying power to a future datacenter (not sure if an Ai project, there’s more that one). Let’s just say, money is no issue, commissioning schedule and functionality are their priorities.

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  • [+] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I would argue that, prior to chatgpt's marketing, AI did mean that.

    When talking about specific, non-general, techniques, it was called things like ML, etc.

    After openai coopted AI to mean an LLM, people started using AGI to mean what AI used to mean.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    That would be a deeply ahistorical argument.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect

    AI is a very old field, and has always suffered from things being excluded from popsci as soon as they are achievable and commonplace. Path finding, OCR, chess engines and decision trees are all AI applications, as are machine learning and LLMs.

    That Wikipedia article has a great line in it too

    The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists organization views the AI effect as a worldwide strategic military threat.[4] They point out that it obscures the fact that applications of AI had already found their way into both US and Soviet militaries during the Cold War.[4]

    The discipline of Artificial Intelligence was founded in the 50s. Some of the current vibe is probably due to the "Second AI winter" of the 90s, the last time calling things AI was dangerous to your funding

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Doom enemies had AI 30 years ago.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    The thing is, AI doesn't need to take over the world if the BiG tHiNkErS are so eager to replace humans regardless of its merit.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    It's all about selling the ideology of AI, not the tools actually being useful.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    They will destroy jobs first, then the rest will simply unravel.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    It's not the "AI" that I'm worried about destroying the world. It's the tech Bros and CEOs who are trying to force it on us all I'm worried about. Cuz I don't trust them to think things through or think ahead.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    not worried about AI taking over the world.

    I'm worried that corporate interests are using AI as a mechanism to circumvent our already weak control of the world and enslaving us only for AI to be used inappropriately in ways that further the divide between the wealthy and poor.

    I'm worried that these corporate interests are doing irreversible damage to the environment by consuming energy and resources that could be better spent on solving real problems like homelessness, joblessness, healthcare, and hunger.

    I'm worried that my kids will grow up in a world where technology has become so toxic to intelligence that they're living in a mashup of Fahrenheit 451 and 1984.

    AI couldn't find its way out of a wet paper sack. The maliciously negligent rich assholes that are forcing us to use AI when it's a half-baked pyramid scheme filled with crypto-bros and fascist supporting scumbags -- those guys I'm concerned about.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Delicious either way.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    AI will not take over. OpenAI on the other hand...

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I've never really liked this meme. I quite dislike AI, but just because your NN sucks doesn't mean NNs or AI in general is fundamentally poor.

    I often write very poorly performing programs due to mistakes, lack of knowledge, or just general incompetence. That doesn't mean all my programs perform poorly. It certainly doesn't mean all your programs perform poorly.

    "AI" sucks for a lot of reasons, but so does this image.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    A cat identifying as a dog is exactly the same amount of dog as all other dogs.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    An AI that plays Elden Ring, I see.

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  • That's not a dog that's a salad

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I don't think it will take over. I think idiots will deploy ai everywhere and that will create systems that are fundamentally inhumane.

    I mean more surveillance, more arbitrary "decisions" by opaque systems. Basically Oppression by lack of oversight and control.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Geoffrey Hinton, is worried about AI taking over the world. I wouldn't say he knows nothing about AI...

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    The current capabilities are only indicative of future improvements. It says nothing about how capable it will be in the far future.

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