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[–] 97 points 1 year ago (10 children)

As someone who has a garden and has successfully grown garlic from cut ends of store bulbs...

It's not worth the labor.

I garden, yes, but the economy of scales of buying at the grocery store is much lower than growing your own vegetables. You garden because you want to enjoy vegetables that are either heirloom or you want the freshness.

Between the labor, watering, fertilizing, maintaining, etc. it's simply cheaper to buy at the store.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Just don't plant cheap stuff.

    I will probably never grow onions, potatoes, corn, celery and other vegetables that are always cheap.

    I will plant things that are easy and or pricey. Tomatoes for sure, if I bought the tomatoes at the store I would probably have spent $500 just on tomatoes a season. Chives are also easy to manage and expensive in store. Aspargus is stupid expensive and is almost hard to get rid of once established. Some berry type fruits are also worth growing if you have spare land for them since they come back each year.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    we plant onions because that way we never have to think "hey, do we have onions?"

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I have a similar philosophy with basil. It's cheap enough in our stores, but it's way more convenient to always know its outside.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah that's my attitude as well. I grow the things that are significantly better straight out of the garden. The best tomatoes are too fragile to go through the sorting machinery, so growing your own enables much higher quality produce. Berries are way better picked ripe. Green beans are also super easy to grow and are better fresh.

    Then there's varieties that just aren't popular enough for many stores to stock and specialty stores are far and expensive: patty pan squash, molokhia, ground cherries, shallots, celery leaves (I don't like the stalk), a variety of herbs, peppers that aren't bell or jalapeno, etc.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I'm going to grow canning pickles next year because find those specific types in the store is a nightmare, and that's even with someone who works there and can special order them, it's just easier and cheaper to grow my own!

    I'd never grow garlic. Store has huge cheap bins of it.

    San marzano tomatoes though? Growing. Strawberries? Absolutely growing, the store ones are okay but fresh is amazing.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    I have a similar view. Plant things that are fun. It is a hobby and it needs to be that. Why bother planting potatoes when they take up a good amount of space and they're cheap?

    I plant chives as well, rocket because I love it, weird varieties of chillies, and I'm thinking of adding also other herbs that I can't get easily or that are a faff to get. Coriander is a good example, as I have to get a bag whenever I have to use a tiny bit and the rest goes to waste.

    Hobby farming is fun and a great way to get you (and the family) to eat more veggies. Subsistence farming is just painful.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Haha, yeah, asparagus is hard to get rid of. It forms these mats of roots like 8 inches down that hollow out during the fall/winter and then new roots shoot back out through the tubes. That said.. I've never had store bought asparagus that was JUICY. I usually pluck them as as snack to eat while I'm weeding or whatever, they're perfectly tasty raw.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That's why tiktok and youtube shorts are just braindead. I read this other thing where "kids" bought all the cucumbers in stores because there is this crazy new thing called cucumber salad. A week or so later a friend visits me and for some reason it came up and she was like: yeah, i had to try this cucumber thing, because it was everywhere on tiktok, and it turns out it's:s just a salad.

    This woman is 36 years old.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's not worth the labor.

    This is my perspective. I hate weeding, more than almost anything. I hate crouching and bending over, and shuffling slowly from patch to patch. I hate gardening. I hate getting sweaty and the kind of dirty you get in the garden: gritty, and it finds its way into your shoes and gloves. Gardening sucks.

    If I was really invested, I might do hydroponics. Elevated, minimum to no weeds, no crawling around in the dirt. I don't know whether, in the end, I'd actually save any money, though.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I have a terrible back but love gardening so I invested in 3 foot high bins. They are a life saver for not only my back but keeps rabbits from eating the vegetables. If you get the right soil mixture you don't have to worry about the weeds.

    The dirt....you can't do much about that except hydroponics like you said but that has its drawbacks too. At the end, you do what helps you and keeps you happy.

    My biggest issue at this point is mosquitoes so I've started wearing long pants and a light jacket. That seems to have helped things.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    just discovered agriculture?

    Hey, you want to make a big of money? Do what I did, get into farming

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pDTiFkXgEE

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    By this logic, why not buy 200,000 tomato plants with the million dollars?

    $50 in a few decades will be worth very little compared to now because of inflation. Take the lump sum and invest more on the early side. That's how smart people successfully implement compounding.

    Edit:
    Also, that $6,250 times 52 weeks in a year is not $46M; it's $325k. Not to mention that the $6,250 takes a year from initial investment, so it takes 2 years to hit that $325k. And that's revenue, not profit. And it assumes dependable harvest. It's a joke shit post that I'm taking way too seriously, right?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    On what fuckin land?

    Broseph, I could just build a factory. Just take $20 a week making sourdough starter and wait 6 weeks and build a factory making bread. Just ignore every other cost and the cost of owning land and taxes and real life.

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    [–] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    This is how I see all of the "I'm going to move to the country and grow my own food" crowd.

    They're essentially glorifying subsistence farming, a lifestyle that humans have collectively been trying to escape since we invented agriculture.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I've lived in a subsistence farming community. You know who doesn't glorify and romanticize it? Farmers.

    Don't get me wrong, hobby farming often is the best of both worlds, and smallholder farming and gardening fucking make life 20,000 times better. But making the jump to letting your whole life depend on rainfall just to eat is madness.

    We as a species have 50 centuries of receipts to tell us that subsistence farmers eventually lose the game in a long enough time line. It only takes 1 season for that to ruin lives and communities.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    i mean the food is better when you picked it that morning. but like, i can pay someone else to pick it that morning.

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    [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    once a week i hunt for a shop and gather some groceries.

    Just like my forebears

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Wait until they stop adopting children after finding out about impregnation

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  • 12000 years and we’re back

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    This sounds like a wall-e type sci-fi concept. Except our actual future.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    That's nice, now I only need 200k so I can buy a house with a backyard so I can make my own groceries.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Where do you live that 200k gets you enough land to grow your own food? Mine was Β£230k and all I can realistically grow a years supply of in a year is a few types of herbs.

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    [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Garlic factory owners hate this one simple trick.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    This is tiktok after all, so yes, they fully believe they’re the very first to discover agriculture, and no, no one else has yet. It’s so cool to be them, according to them.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Garlic will grow like a weed too. Growing up we had an entire bed along the outside north wall that went from mixed plants to oops all garlic and chives alarmingly quickly.

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    [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    My parent's garden has literally thousands of garlic plants that show up unplanned every year. When clearing part of the garden to plant something else, pulling up like 30 garlic stalks is normal. Come harvest time, they give away as much garlic as they can and they still have so much that they have to throw a bunch of it out because it all goes bad before they can use it.

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    Eliminate car repair bills with a bunch of tools and this weird trick!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    The garlic at my local store is 69Β’ a bulb. Nice!

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