When you are creating your resume, you don't need to put every random job you've ever had. What companies do is they look at your jobs on the resume, and at most call the employer and ask them if you worked for them and how you did at the job.

There is no way for a non government employee to know if you worked other jobs. Keep off any jobs that you worked at for less than 2 years and use every skill you learned as a skill for your resume.

Nothing hurts your resume more than having 3 or 4 jobs in a span of 2 years because it shows you are unreliable.

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[–] 45 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I know this is true for most employers, but I'm not sure I'd be willing to be confident that there's no way for any company to know. I've heard more than one report of companies that sell that sort of information to certain partners.

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    [–] 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    On the other hand, having a one year gap without any work raises its own red flags. Need a good reason to have large swaths of not working.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This one is so crazy to me. I have two friends that seem to be facing this issue right now. One took 6 months off after being laid off from his job because he wanted to, had enough money to, and just wanted to take some time off and travel etc. He keeps getting grilled about it, and has been job hunting for another 6 months on top of it. Now he's been unemployed for a year and is getting grilled even harder for it. Why is that a problem? Like why do people see that as some kind of flaw? "I had the resources to take some time off so I did" seems perfectly fine to me

    The other friend was suffering from severe burnout and decided to take a year off to get his own mental health in order. Once again, I don't see the problem with that. If you can afford to take a year off and that's what you want to do with your time and money, then right on, go do that. Life is for living. But now he's having a very hard time getting a job because of it.

    Its kinda bullshit.

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    [–] 29 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Omit jobs held less than 2 years? In this economy? They're all less than 2 years! Props to those who've held jobs for several years because you must be comfortable. Most people shopping aren't comfortable and changing jobs has gotten me more money than any in-house raise ever did.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    The longest I've ever stayed in one job is my current job. Which is currently rocking in on 2 and 1/2 years now. The second longest was 18 months. I'm not old enough to have decades worth of experience I don't know what they want.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Can confirm. Worked nearly a dozen years for the same company straight out of high school, and have not had a single employer since verify my work history or references. This is to say, that my first employer with whom I had a good rapport and good reviews, has not received a single phone call or e-mail in this regard. I still talk with & see them on a semi-regular basis, and asked them - not one, not one single effort has been made to contact them and verify the contents of my resume concerning my time spent in their employ.

    Me @ Human Resources departments everywhere:

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    If you get any amount of work from recruiters they always call your references and/or your past jobs.

    I’ve given a handful of people permission to use me as a reference and every single time, that person goes hunting and will work with 2-5 recruiters over the course of their job hunt and from each and every one I’ll get a 20 minute call where they grill me about the candidate. It’s kinda exhausting as somebody who isn’t in charge of hiring/firing.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    a couple thoughts:

    • I usually have a section called "Relevant Work" and another called "Other" where I say "Additional experience with [list my non-relevant jobs]"
    • if you are taking time off from working, try to do something educational at the same time. classwork at a local university / community college is great, or do online classes or even a bunch of tutorials and/or an open-source/volunteer project. then you can say: "I always wanted to learn about (that topic) so I took some time off to really study it." it's most beneificial if it's work-related, but it doesn't have to be.
    • present yourself in the best light, but do not outright lie on your resume because that might come back to bite you.
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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I have hired dozens, maybe hundreds of people in corpo jobs. I can't vouch for any other employer, but I've never called anybody for anything. We had tests to verify skills and the CV was mostly a tool to know what steps to cover during an interview.

    I can confirm that I didn't care about the summer you spent flipping burgers for the much more specific, entirely unrelated jobs I hired for. It mostly only let me know it was probably somebody young and relatively inexperienced padding things out.

    But then, we were hiring for a very specific type of industry and... well, we weren't assholes. I have to imagine this sort of CV micromanagement is a thing somewhere or there wouldn't be a cottage industry around this nonsense.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Last two places I worked we used HireRight to run background checks on all new hires. I have my own document. I worked in Cyber; one company was data analytics, the other was finance.

    The service will take the information you submitted at application and verifiy if it is true. They literally call former employers and the schools you list (college only). They run a public records check and when its all done, it goes to the HR goons. I never saw the reports except my own. Each one costs about $600. There are always some minor discrepancies, the company will add a note; if there are little ones, they will note and advise that there is nothing concerning. I never had one come back bad. A different leader did, and it just means that they have a conversation with the candidate and let them explain.

    On mine, I had some criminal history hits for a different person with the same name as me. They were in states where I did not live and it was pretty clear it was someone else. They also did a credit report.

    So they are real and they do happen. They are VERY thorough. They are also expensive and most places dont want to pay for them. I had it done as I was a senior director in cyber security. I doubt all parts of the workforce have it done.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I can see that for a security role... maybe. It would have been a massive waste of time and money for what we were doing, though. Plus, this was during the good old times when people weren't being fired left and right. If anything it was hard to find people with the right qualifications that were still available. People in the field were getting hired directly out of school. If you could pass the tests, do the job and not act like a psychopath during interviews there were very few things that would have disqualified you.

    I'll also say that I'm pretty sure some of what you describe would have been illegal over here, at least for most jobs.

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  • [+] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Nothing hurts your resume more than having 3 or 4 jobs in a span of 2 years because it shows you are unreliable.

    Yeah having no jobs for a span of 2 years would hurt your application more....

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    I know for a fact that none of my references have ever been contacted for a reference. I have my old university professor is one of my contacts because at the time I was applying for jobs I didn't have any other possible references I'd had no prior work experience.

    Anyway I never got round to actually be removing his name and a few years ago he contacted me to tell me he was retiring (I don't know why he felt the need to tell me this), I asked him if anybody had ever asked him to provide a reference and he said no one had ever contacted him about it for me, or anyone else who'd put him down.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Nothing hurts your resume more than having 3 or 4 jobs in a span of 2 years because it shows you are unreliable.

    I’d like to add that if you put start/end dates on your work history you should prepare talking points for any gaps this may leave when omitting jobs.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Most employers in my experience want the detail of what you were doing. They don't like 2 year blanks.

    Having multiple jobs in a few years doesn't show you are unreliable at all. There could be a number of reasons (short contracts, change of ownership, company closing, moving house, having kids, conditions changing) that forced your move.

    I've got jobs in the past because my CV showed I was able and willing to take jobs when opportunities came my way.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Good advice, but it depends. Some people don't want to show a gap in their resume, for any reason. It all depends on the story you want to tell. If you think the experience is directly relevant to the story you are looking to tell, put it in.

    Did you do some temp work in your field for few months between full-time gigs? Probably best to include that, especially if you learned or applied relevant skills. Did you end up working in a different field to make ends meet instead? Probably best to leave that out, unless you can relate that unrelated experience to what you want to do now.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    You might be surprised… https://employees.theworknumber.com/

    Many employers report your employment info to data brokers. Request your data and see for yourself.

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    [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    This depends on where you live. In my country Employers will only (sometimes, not always) call previous companies if you specifically list them as references.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is highly industry-dependent. When I was working in IT and systems admin, I had a lot of contract/temp jobs that were still valuable experiences. My resume after finishing university would have been blank if I left those 3-6 month contracts off because that's how you get your foot in the door in a lot of fields.

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    [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    So if you're keeping off any jobs that you've worked at for less than 2 years, does that mean you lie about dates to cover up the gaps?

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    [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I don't agree. I think having a mix of long and short term is not problamatic. The hardest thing is getting that first long term one.

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