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[–] 87 points 1 year ago

And now you're lost

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  • [–] 59 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    If this was accurate, the ropes would have snapped and Homer would go hurddling to the base of the mountain.

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  • [–] 53 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    I've installed Arch manually exactly once. (Just for the bragging rights, lol) My go to way is just installing EndeavourOS. It's basically Arch, but with a nicer installer and reasonable defaults.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I did it once, wrote down all the commands I used in order and then made my own install script. It was a great learning experience

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    i did that once... watched a video of some guy installing it, wrote down every single command, did it myself, it worked! then the clock system broke and i tried to fix it, couldn't do it because dumb, and reinstalled it. exact same commands as before, but it didn't work, no clue why

    then i did the same with some other youtube video, until i just decided to use an arch based distro with an installer

    now i just see people talking about archinstall and i'm like... i could've done it with one command? why did nobody tell me?!?!? or did i just ignore everyone who told me? am i stupid?!?!?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I use Endeavour, btw. Nah, I don't think it'll catch one.

    I'm super stoked to be on an Arch-based system, but things have been so easy I have earned no bragging rights what-so-ever with it.

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    [+] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)
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    [–] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Installing Arch manually is not hard, and there are plenty of step-by-step guides.

    Figuring out what you need next and then managing this mess is more complicated.

    Source: I installed Arch manually btw

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    People copy and pasting from the wiki or gpt "pathetic"

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Now I kind of want to see just how broken my install gets if I just have ChatGPT guide me through the whole installation.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    It gets real messy, lol. I tried to have GPT guide me through figuring out a Node and nvm error in my Arch WSL and it made nightmare spaghetti out of my npm prefix.

    It eventually got stuck in a loop of trying to make me do the same two things over and over again and expected different results each time.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I did it the manual way probably about 10 times on my Linux learning journey, it was a really good way to learn how Linux itself worked. Now I just use archinstall every time.

    I've done it, I've gotten the satisfaction from it, but it's not gonna add any more inches to my e-peen.

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    [–] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Oh, you use pacstrap and arch-chroot, do you? Back in my day all we had was cp and install and we liked it that way! Kids these days wouldn't know how to install SLS without their Yays and Pac-men.

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    [–] 26 points 1 year ago

    I use arch btw, have been for 5 or so years, I open the gates to those who want to use arch install

    You are not any lesser for not wanting to install arch manually

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    I've been using arch since archinstall came out. I never installed it reading the wiki.

    I sleep like a baby and everything works.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I installed Arch exactly once by hand. Since then I just copy the install with dd from one medium to the next.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I once installed Gentoo from scratch.

    I then didn't use Linux for about 15 years, so take from that what you will.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago*

    "We need more people to use linux, look at what MS is doing to people."

    People who have never used linux trying to use and learn linux by using an installer built by awesome members of the Arch team.

    "C'mon do you even linux?"

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    I've installed arch several times from scratch. Now if I need to I use archinstall. No shame

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    What is this magic? You are telling me that a single command would have spared me an entire day of suffering?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    [–] 13 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    People here are always talking about different distros, trying this one and then that one until they found what they like. Are you guys really just reinstalling your OS that often? Reinstalling all the programs you want and everything?

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    [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Archinstall made my root partition 25 GiBs the first time I ever messed around on arch. That was fun when it filled up.

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    [–] 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Wht does it even matter if you don't install Arch manually? Is the whole point of the arch installing? I don't think so, it's using. If you don't find anything joyful in manually installing arch it's perfectly fine to manually install only once to make sure you know how it works. And just use archinstall in every following installation that's not shamefu

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    No! Heathen! Download the source for every package and compile it yourself! Compile the kernel yourself, compile the compiler yourself! Never script anything, always do every step manually, every time! Using tools that make things convenient and foolproof makes you weak and unappreciative of the real hardship and struggle it requires to checks notes use a personal computer!

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    [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Gentoo stage 3 here.

    They discouraged earlier stages in the wiki :(

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    Went with EndeavourOS instead so at least I have more than an ice cubes chance in hell of not borking my install

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    [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    hardmode: I did a fresh install on a HDD that is on verge of being dead. Every-time this thing boots it's a miracle. Somehow dd blanking the disk, plenty of smartctl offline disk surface scans and finally putting btrfs with data in DUP profile resurrected the HDD. I have run btrfs scrub daily or else the os install may bitrot and well.. expire. :D

    Edit: Todays catch, I was too late and now I have fix 3 files:

    Error summary:    read=112
      Corrected:      109
      Uncorrectable:  3
      Unverified:     0
    
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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Cause following the arch wiki is sooooooo much of an efort

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I found the effort was in researching and choosing which components to use, rather than actually installing once chosen. It’s easy if you know exactly what you’re gonna install, but on that first build it definitely takes effort if you want to read into all the options and make educated choices

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    [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I followed the wiki and pulled off a successful install..... On a vm. Once I felt confident and ready I remembered arch install was a thing and thought "sure I'll try it, it'll definetly break and I'll just use the wiki to install" then it worked without a hitch. I'm still running arch with no issues.

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    [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Installing Arch 'the proper way' is a pilgrimage all Linux users should take. After that, they can fly with EndeavourOS at their convenience.

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