Image finally uploaded. Sorry about that.

[Edit. Fixed the headline a bit, due to my poor phrasing]

top 50 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] 88 points 1 year ago (7 children)

This isn't cooperation, this is rivalry. The point is for you to use Edge instead of Chrome.

Just another skirmish in the war for what matters most: which tech-giant is the default choice.

  • source
  • hideshow 9 child comments
  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    which tech-giant is the default choice

    Meanwhile, on Lemmy, I suffer under the tyranny of Big Penguin

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Big penguin is no joke. Just last week a penguin busted down my front door and forced me to compile my own kernel from source!

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • load more comments (5 replies)
    [–] 39 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    A solution is not to use any product, service or software made by MS or google.

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] [S] 16 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Not a choice in most business settings. Windows servers, Microsoft cloud, Windows workstations, and a 365 to complement. You have a better, equally integrated solution? Because, if so, I'd love to hear it.

    Edit. I'm being serious. I'd love to hear it. If it meets the needs of my employer, I'll pitch it. I have some pull. Who knows... it may work.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    You have a better, equally integrated solution?

    I mean, we do. Linux OS, Libre Office, Apache servers, Linux Cloud Service of Choice, PostgreSQL.

    But you need techs familiar with those systems and businesses eager to implement Linux at a foundational level early on in the company's development. Because a lot of businesses outsource their IT early on, and because a lot of end-user hardware has Microsoft pre-installed, and because the major IT outsourcers all get big kickbacks from Microsoft to be the default solutions, and because Microsoft has embedded itself at the university level at a global scale, and because Microsoft has successfully lobbied itself as the premier US contractor of choice for federal and state IT setups, it can be harder to find professionals willing and able to configure a Linux environment. This is assuming the company founders even think to ask for alternatives.

    That's not to say it never happens. FFS, some of the biggest competitors to Microsoft - Amazon and Google most notably - have relied on Linux/PostgreSQL architecture to keep their overhead low and their integrations non-exclusive. But they're exceptional precisely because they laid the groundwork early.

    The problem isn't that integrated solutions don't exist. The problem is that most CTOs don't embrace them early on in the company's development and find themselves trapped in the Microsoft ecosystem well after the point a transition would be easy.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    The integration is Microsoft's monopoly behaviour which anti-trust organisation no longer put a stop to. There are alternatives but they struggle to match the level of integration Microsoft can achieve owning and making all of the office suite.

    However European local and regional government have been moving over to Office alternatives such as Collabora, Onlyoffice and Libreoffice. Collabora & Onlyoffice are particularly designed for online use and collaboration.

    There are also alternatives to the Exchange email system, with Nextcloud one of a few that can either be bought as a service or self deployed by organisations and individuals.

    The biggest benefits are total control and privacy of data, plus better cost. Microsoft clients don't generally get any of this, with the increasing push to integrate online services and try to forcably up-sell by bundling in stuff customers don't need but have to buy to get the things they want or need. Microsoft rely on inertia and vendor lock-in; once you become dependent on their services it makes it seem impossible to get out and move to a new system.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'm transitioning my (very small) office to OnlyOffice and OwnCloud this summer. I have a lot of autonomy so I can basically just make the decision.

    I'm choosing OnlyOffice over LibreOffice because it's a more similar to 360 an I will have to help the staff with very little tech literacy through the transition.

    We're not ready to transition the OS just yet (and may not be able to), but as the hardware ages, we may change over some of the less essential systems. Probably Ubuntu or Zorin.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • load more comments (3 replies)
  • load more comments (2 replies)
  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    People will complain about everything, but never just switch to Firefox, huh? You can't be helped then. There is just the one browser (and a couple of forks of it).

  • source
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • load more comments (3 replies)
    [–] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    photograph of monitor

    pressing Print ScreenPrint Screen key
    Does OP know about screenshots (Print Screen key or WindowsKey-Shift-S which brings up Snipping Tool) or alt text? 🤦

  • source
  • hideshow 9 child comments
  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Right. And then you take a picture of the printout of the emailed PDF on a wooden table, we know the old ways.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • load more comments (5 replies)
    [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    I wonder if it's an early response to the talk of breaking up Google and Chrome. MS gets more people onboarded to Edge and Google still gets your browser level metrics.

  • source
  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Booted my desktop since my work computers windows and I game mostly on my steam deck, and holy shit is Manjaro fast as hell compared to windows in 2025. Like I'm so used to clicking and waiting and in Manjaro you click and it's just there.

    Man fuck windows.

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    I doubt that

    I wouldn't be surprised if Google doesn't consent to any of this

  • source
  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I don’t really understand the issue here. Why does anyone care if you can sign into Google services on Edge?

  • source
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's not the ability that's bothersome (that part is fine, and has been there). It's the fact that this is part of the first boot screen you see on Edge now, with dark patterns to get you to do it.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • load more comments (4 replies)
    [–] 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    True or not, I'm one email away from total freedom.

    Just wonder about anti spam measures.

  • source
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • load more comments (6 replies)
    [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    How can we be sure this is genuine? I can see there is an opt out option. Thats very unMicrosoft like

    😭

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Edge has been Chromium based for a while now. Hell, a lot of the 365 stuff will only work in Edge or Chrome.

    It's wild how corporations are so openly cool with paying license fees to give everything away to Microsoft.

    I would have told them to pound sand as soon as they tried to push the 365 and Azure shit if I was a business.

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    To put it into perspective: if Leibniz was right and this is truely the best of all worlds, be happy that you don't live in any of the other, more shittier timelines. Like the one where Apple sells monitor stands for $1000. Oh, wait...

  • source
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is literally the standard Google sync account stuff in every Chromium browser. Don't want it? Pick a browser that isn't Chrome based. That basically leaves Firefox or a handful of brand new alpha buggy browsers no one has heard of with dubious update potential.

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • load more comments (2 replies)
    [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    What? How was Mozilla ever in any kind of OS integrated way in bed with Google?
    Google was just the default search engine in their browser. That's it, and it's dead easy to change the default search engine in Firefox.

    Why are you making a completely false equivalence, to make Mozilla look bad? Also Firefox is open source, so Mozilla even lets you use a fork, with all the functionality of Firefox with whatever you don't like changed.

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's what I was saying. Everyone gave Mozilla flack for their deal with Google, and here MS is doing it way, way worse. I actually don't mind that Google was the default search engine in ff. It made it usable out of the box for the vast majority of users, and the minority had to click two button to change it. Seemples.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    OK fair enough, but that's not what it looked like to me when I read the headline.
    I don't use anything Microsoft, and I use only very few Google things for basic functionality of my phone.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    The tech bro corporate class is kind of in bed with each other. Individuals at Palantir and Meta were given the rank of Lt. Colonel the other day. They all contribute to each other's data (selling and trading it to the same data brokers). Have similar people funding them, using and buying their products. Lots of the messaging and cultural stances they take are similar. Their heads know each other, or have ways to contact each other. Some have histories of working at the same companies, knowing the same people. Occupying the same end of the class war.

  • source
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Microsoft is is bed with Google now,
    [Edit. Fixed the headline a bit, due to my poor phrasing]

    lol

  • source
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Edge has always been Chrome with a Microsoft badge on.

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • load more comments (1 reply)
    [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    What happens at work is work but at home there is always Linux and Libreoffice.

  • source
  • load more comments
    view more: next ›