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[–] 83 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Ah yes, the classic dual-boot woes

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If you're lucky, it's still on the disk and you just need to "repair" the bootloader.

    If not, well, that traumatised Mr Incredible pastiche might be at least a circle of hell too pleasant.

    You have backups, right?

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    There's no way Windows would just access non-readable partition, and do anything with it, let alone delete it. No operating system does this.

    Replacing the bootloader is of course much more likely, but the general rule is that if you can manage to install Linux, you probably can follow basic instructions to fix GRUB or whatever your bootloader is.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    There's no way Windows would just access non-readable partition

    I knew that was true back in the day, but I haven't tried dual booting in a long, long time. Also, I wouldn't put it past Microsoft's current incarnation to "accidentally" decide that that "empty" partition would be great for virtual memory and the hibernation image.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Oh Windows knows this is the EFI partition, there is a flag for that. Windows just doesn't care when it decides to nuke your bootloader with its own...

    And yes, it's still happening...

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It always sucks dual booting in my experience. It’s an exercise in balancing maintenance and disk space management between two operating systems. You’re always likely patching if you actively switch between them.

    I think it’s usually better to choose one and virtualize the other. I’d rather choose Linux + Windows VM than the other way around.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Sadly VMs don't work with the Anti-Cheat rootkits, one of the only reasons I still have Windows

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yea, I figured thats why most people end up dual booting. It’s not a judgment or anything.

    FWIW, I get around this by either using Geforce Now to stream the game that uses it or simply not playing the game lol. It’s not worth dealing with Windows for me.

    My friends and I don’t usually play the kind of games that use Anti-Cheat so its not an issue.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    I haven't had dual boot problems since the early 2010s. I don't even know what I'm doing right.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The trick is to have a second EFI partition. One for windows to destroy, and one for linux to enjoy.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This should not happen unless you booted into windows and ran an update.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Well, but you could update windows, then reboot but boot into linux. That means the windows update can't fully complete yet. Now if you start up your PC the next day and it boots into Windows by default, the update process will continue.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I have Linux and Windows on separate drives.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I that why I never relate to this issue? I've had a dual boot setup for years by now and have always been able to choose either windows or Linux at startup, but they are on separate drives

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Gaming. Want a quick round in a pause? Mount error: go boot Windows to fix it. But i have multiple tools and sessions and stuff open...

    And Windows still can't handle anything reliable.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    @MonkderVierte @bluesheep ntfs? just use chkufsd binary from paragon mounter apk (there is static x86 binary in assets). And do not use ntfs-3g, it is slow and almost abadonned.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh, right, i never used the new ntfs driver. So it's only a bad memory.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Don't dual boot, flatten and rebuild.

    "B-but my gaaaaaamez!!!"

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I constantly tell people the dangers of dual booting. They don't listen and then it breaks.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I constantly tell people the remedy of the dangers of dual booting, using a separate drive for Linux. They sometimes listen and then have a dual boot system that doesn't break.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Can that actually happen like this? If Windows killed the bootloader wouldn't that mean that you couldn't boot into Kubuntu either? Or can it somehow kill the bootloader when the PC is turned off?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Grub had/has this issue every time windows does a cumulative monthly update. Systemd doesn't have this issue.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    While microsoft has admitted to bugs causing exactly this scenario. I personally have a stabe 6 months with dual-boot. And only updating cachos once a month or every two weeks has been fine. The server and rog ally exclusively runs linux.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Separate ssd's lets go

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)