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[+] 285 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 121 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    I bet reddit paid for that article.

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  • [–] 73 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    They probably paid for the title but the article isn't actually that peachy, I'd say its assessment is accurate. The Reddit sub protest is over, and technically spez got his way, but the platform has been damaged and may recover or may begin to die out and be replaced.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Of course it did, spez has been unsuccessfully trying to spin this. He assumed since he’s a sellout who has sex with cats, we’d all bend over.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago

    I doubt it given the way the article ends- it suggests that while reddit's leadership got it's way, that the incident might still have damaged the platform's reputation and that in the long term reddit might not be successful in it's attempts to be profitable either. I'd imagine a paid article would have a more positive or confidence-inducing message than that.

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  • [–] 172 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (12 children)

    Good for them, but the damage is already done. They seeded this place with a lot of users. Will it be enough? Who knows. But Lemmy is probably a looooot further along than if they didn’t shoot themselves in the foot.

    This place obviously needs to continue with good content and active communities, but at moment I don’t really have the urge to open Reddit they way things are.

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  • [–] 114 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Absolutely. I had never even heard of Lemmy or anything Fediverse prior to all the 3rd party API shutdown. Once Apollo died, I stopped using Reddit.

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  • [–] 39 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    I had heard of it, but was like "that's dumb, just use Reddit, there's no reason not to"

    They gave me and many others that reason to reconsider

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  • [–] 24 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Yep. I also didn’t think this would work as well as it does. Remarkably good platform so far.

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    [–] 86 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Reddit “won” but I predict it will never regain what it once was.

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  • [+] 37 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
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    [–] 81 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I won, because I found lemmy.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago

    Exactly how I feel! I don't care at all what happens on the other site. This whole thing opened my eyes to what it has become, and it's not just the API, that place has become toxic af.

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  • [–] 78 points 3 years ago* (6 children)

    Well it cured me from checking reddit all the time, so I count that as a win.

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    [–] 41 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    As I understand it, reddit has shattered its trust with its userbase and has hemmoraged users because of it. I can hardly view that as a 'win' for them.

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  • [–] 41 points 3 years ago

    I agree it's over, I moved here and don't care about Reddit anymore. :)

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  • [–] 40 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    They didn't win shit. What they did broke the site for everyone. It doesn't stop being broken because they seized control over the subs, something they could have done at any moment.

    Reddit has detonated all its credibility, leaving a hole in the side just big enough for most of the site's users to escape as they decide reddit isn't worth it, or find good-enough alternatives. It won't happen all at once, but it'll happen.

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    [–] 38 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    We're in such a shitty timeline right now where these CEO's realize that they have so many mainstream users who just don't actually care about the platform and just want the content, that even with significant controversy if they just ignore it, they can almost certainly weather the storm. Sure, their platform will be worse off, they'll lose users to other platforms, but it's a far cry from the Digg v3 -> Reddit situation when there was a much smaller user base who was more passionate about the site and community and they abandoned the old site as a result of those shitty decisions.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Big platforms like Facebook, Digg, Twitter and Reddit don't fail in a day. Their decline is rather gradual. If you noticed any decline on Reddit's quality after the API lockdown, then that's the beginning of a gradual slide. Just wait for a while before judging the results.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago

    My wife didn’t really pay attention to the reddit controversy and frankly didn’t really care. She is about as casual ad you can get and even She has noticed a very steep decline in the quality of content shared on reddit. She barely uses it anymore. Now this is a person who doesn’t notice when her adblocker is on or not. If she noticed this, i can guarantee she is not alone.

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  • [–] 36 points 3 years ago

    I won't really call that a win,

    Reddit lost the trust of many users, a non insignificant part of contributors and moderators left, the enshittification of the platform is not going to stop but they lost a big part of what made Reddit great. They damaged their image and popularity.

    It's like saying Elon won by trashing Twitter. Sure he does what he wants with it but making your platform less desirable sure isn't a win for the platform.

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  • [–] 36 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Honestly, those still on Reddit are either lurkers or never gave a shit about the "protests" to begin with. The real measure will be the IPO. With that said, one tech group stroking off another means very little, anymore. Gizmodo can write their fluff piece.

    The capitalists are concerned about the plebs using social media to organize and call out lies, doing everything they can to break up or muddy the waters of social media platforms ahead of the 2024 US presidential elections. The goal is to disrupt the platforms and drive away dissenting users who would use these platforms to organize against them and debunk misinformation/lies.

    Musk buys Twitter (for far more than it was worth, lol) and drives it into the ground. Zuckerberg starts Threads to give people another "slowly boiling pot" to catch some of those looking for Twitter-alternatives. Spez and company enact changes to the platform, to artificially inflate their ad revenue ahead of their final valuation, which can't happen if users are allowed to skirt their ads with better clients. I didn't talk about Facebook, but it hasn't been relevant since COVID showed us how bat-shit crazy our families and neighbors are. Facebook is basically Nextdoor, but world-wide. We can't forget about the TikTok users. The parent company can't be touched or bought so they're just trying to outright ban the platform here.

    The ultra-wealthy are showing us how scared they are of the up-and-coming new demographic of voters, who grew up on social media, know how to use it better than them, in ways they couldn't predict, and don't give a fuck about TV news, printed media, or corporatized websites. The last two elections have slowly been reversing the progress these regressionists have made using the gullibility and entitlement of the Boomer generation, the ignorance of the Gen-X generation, and the brittle corpses of the millennials to push their agenda.

    The Arab Spring showed these wealthy fuckers how dangerous the people can be when they are allowed to use social media to organize and they don't want it to happen again at a time when we're finally starting to wise up to the "two-sides-of-the-same-coin" world we live in, and a new voting season has so much on the line for them.

    Fuck the wealthy, money's made up, and may ass cancer rid us all of their kind!

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    [–] 26 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Was there really going to be any other outcome?

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Depends on how one defines "win".

    We coulda gotten more people here. Reddit's kind of the perfect centralized service to decentralize. Major subreddits have millions of subscribers and mods with years of experience managing large communities. Many of them could have set up their own Lemmy servers and just said "we're over here now". You get a few large, but still not exactly mainstream r/all kind of subreddits doing that, and things could've been significantly different.

    At the same time, there are several ordres of magnitude more people here now than there was before, and the space isn't showing any signs of dying. That's kind of a big L for Reddit, as they're going to continue enshitifying themselves in the months and years ahead, and there's a legit, if somewhat underground, alternative space for people to go when they're finally fed up. Now with an insane amount of mobile app support, to boot.

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    But will reddit ever be the same as it was? I highly doubt it

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    [–] 14 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Imo, nobody won here and the reddit user lost everything. The Fediverse wasnt ready for the influx of users and lost its chance to "win" for a long time. The sites couldn't support the load and there was a lack of polished mobile apps that felt familiar to people that wanted to browse and shit post.

    Without content -- without interaction, a platform whithers; and my experience, so far, has been comment oasises while scrolling through pages of desert.

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    [–] 12 points 3 years ago

    They didn’t beat me. I overwrote and deleted all my posts and haven’t been there since the end of June.

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