β² 85 βΌ Google leaves older Pixels behind for Android's long-awaited Battery Health menu (www.androidauthority.com) submitted 1 year ago by limerod@reddthat.com [M] to c/android@lemdro.id 18 comments fedilink hide all child comments TL;DR Androidβs long-awaited Battery Health menu has arrived in Android 16 Beta 3, but only for the Pixel 9 series and the Pixel 8a. Google has confirmed that older Pixels, including the not-so-old Pixel 8 and Pixel 8 Pro, will not receive this feature. The decision is due to unspecified βproduct limitations,β leaving aging device users without means for native battery diagnostics.
[β] limerod@reddthat.com [S] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children) Interesting that the 8a will get this feature. But, pixel 8 and 8 pro won't. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 19 points 1 year ago The 8 isn't even two years old. permalink fedilink source parent [β] dumblederp@aussie.zone 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) Pretty disappointed with Google dropping support of their own products like this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] 7empest@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) The cycle of planned obsolescnce continues permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] nosebleed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) Been really happy with support and updates from Graphene. Pretty simple nontechnical installation most users are capable of and no dodgy rooting/unlocking required. All supported officially with pixel line of phones. My banking apps etc all work fine because of this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] dumblederp@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago I'm still rocking my pixel 5 because it works and the battery lasts me a full day if not more. I should probably look at loading graphene onto it. permalink fedilink source parent [β] 7empest@beehaw.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I am buying a second hand 6a tomorrow, and was thinking of installing graphene or lineageos on it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I run 5's with Lineage. Because they're so cheap I have 3, one for testing, one as a hot spare. Still cost less than a new phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] 7empest@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago Yeah the 6a will be my spare to my 7 pro permalink fedilink source parent [β] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago They literally sold the 8 on the promise of 8 years of support permalink fedilink source parent [β] fayoh@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago* I bought the 8 pro in part for the promise of 7 years of updates. π I understand not everything can come to old phones, maybe it depends on a battery management system feature that is missing in the 8 hw? Otherwise I'm disappointed for sure. Edit: the missing hw was already in the comments.... Read all comments before saying something π€¦ββοΈ permalink fedilink source parent [β] ChildlessBambinoo@mastodon.green 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) @limerod apparently it is a hardware limited feature. The original 8 doesn't have it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] limerod@reddthat.com [S] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) Maybe, google should've included the necessary hardware if it was going to bring the feature to pixel down the line. 7 yrs of updates with missing features does not inspire confidence in them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] HejMedDig@feddit.dk 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you would like them to put hardware into a model, made before they decided to add said hardware? So how about any new hardware added in the next Pixel, should they also have put that into previous Pixels? Software updates will always have hardware limitations permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] limerod@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 1 year ago Pixel 8 did not get the multi model Gemini update simply because it lacked the additional RAM needed for the LLM. Its the same with this feature. They brought battery health and charge counter in android 14. They could've bought this to pixel phones if google did not skimp on the hardware. Software updates will always have hardware limitations I know but, since they were going to work on this feature and had starting with android 14. It does not make sense to skimp on it for a year old hardware. Same with the RAM limitation on the pixel 8. permalink fedilink source parent [+] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] limerod@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) They have been working on the battery health feature for a time. Android 14 brought the charge counter to supported phones. It would be unreasonable to say they did not know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] ChildlessBambinoo@mastodon.green 0 points 1 year ago @limerod they took a leaf out of Apple's playbook with this decision permalink fedilink source parent
[β] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 19 points 1 year ago The 8 isn't even two years old. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] dumblederp@aussie.zone 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) Pretty disappointed with Google dropping support of their own products like this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] 7empest@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) The cycle of planned obsolescnce continues permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] nosebleed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) Been really happy with support and updates from Graphene. Pretty simple nontechnical installation most users are capable of and no dodgy rooting/unlocking required. All supported officially with pixel line of phones. My banking apps etc all work fine because of this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] dumblederp@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago I'm still rocking my pixel 5 because it works and the battery lasts me a full day if not more. I should probably look at loading graphene onto it. permalink fedilink source parent [β] 7empest@beehaw.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I am buying a second hand 6a tomorrow, and was thinking of installing graphene or lineageos on it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I run 5's with Lineage. Because they're so cheap I have 3, one for testing, one as a hot spare. Still cost less than a new phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] 7empest@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago Yeah the 6a will be my spare to my 7 pro permalink fedilink source parent [β] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago They literally sold the 8 on the promise of 8 years of support permalink fedilink source parent
[β] 7empest@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) The cycle of planned obsolescnce continues permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] nosebleed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) Been really happy with support and updates from Graphene. Pretty simple nontechnical installation most users are capable of and no dodgy rooting/unlocking required. All supported officially with pixel line of phones. My banking apps etc all work fine because of this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] dumblederp@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago I'm still rocking my pixel 5 because it works and the battery lasts me a full day if not more. I should probably look at loading graphene onto it. permalink fedilink source parent [β] 7empest@beehaw.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I am buying a second hand 6a tomorrow, and was thinking of installing graphene or lineageos on it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I run 5's with Lineage. Because they're so cheap I have 3, one for testing, one as a hot spare. Still cost less than a new phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] 7empest@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago Yeah the 6a will be my spare to my 7 pro permalink fedilink source parent
[β] nosebleed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) Been really happy with support and updates from Graphene. Pretty simple nontechnical installation most users are capable of and no dodgy rooting/unlocking required. All supported officially with pixel line of phones. My banking apps etc all work fine because of this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] dumblederp@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago I'm still rocking my pixel 5 because it works and the battery lasts me a full day if not more. I should probably look at loading graphene onto it. permalink fedilink source parent [β] 7empest@beehaw.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I am buying a second hand 6a tomorrow, and was thinking of installing graphene or lineageos on it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I run 5's with Lineage. Because they're so cheap I have 3, one for testing, one as a hot spare. Still cost less than a new phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] 7empest@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago Yeah the 6a will be my spare to my 7 pro permalink fedilink source parent
[β] dumblederp@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago I'm still rocking my pixel 5 because it works and the battery lasts me a full day if not more. I should probably look at loading graphene onto it. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] 7empest@beehaw.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I am buying a second hand 6a tomorrow, and was thinking of installing graphene or lineageos on it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I run 5's with Lineage. Because they're so cheap I have 3, one for testing, one as a hot spare. Still cost less than a new phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] 7empest@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago Yeah the 6a will be my spare to my 7 pro permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I run 5's with Lineage. Because they're so cheap I have 3, one for testing, one as a hot spare. Still cost less than a new phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] 7empest@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago Yeah the 6a will be my spare to my 7 pro permalink fedilink source parent
[β] 7empest@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago Yeah the 6a will be my spare to my 7 pro permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago They literally sold the 8 on the promise of 8 years of support permalink fedilink source parent
[β] fayoh@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago* I bought the 8 pro in part for the promise of 7 years of updates. π I understand not everything can come to old phones, maybe it depends on a battery management system feature that is missing in the 8 hw? Otherwise I'm disappointed for sure. Edit: the missing hw was already in the comments.... Read all comments before saying something π€¦ββοΈ permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ChildlessBambinoo@mastodon.green 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) @limerod apparently it is a hardware limited feature. The original 8 doesn't have it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] limerod@reddthat.com [S] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) Maybe, google should've included the necessary hardware if it was going to bring the feature to pixel down the line. 7 yrs of updates with missing features does not inspire confidence in them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] HejMedDig@feddit.dk 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you would like them to put hardware into a model, made before they decided to add said hardware? So how about any new hardware added in the next Pixel, should they also have put that into previous Pixels? Software updates will always have hardware limitations permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] limerod@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 1 year ago Pixel 8 did not get the multi model Gemini update simply because it lacked the additional RAM needed for the LLM. Its the same with this feature. They brought battery health and charge counter in android 14. They could've bought this to pixel phones if google did not skimp on the hardware. Software updates will always have hardware limitations I know but, since they were going to work on this feature and had starting with android 14. It does not make sense to skimp on it for a year old hardware. Same with the RAM limitation on the pixel 8. permalink fedilink source parent [+] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] limerod@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) They have been working on the battery health feature for a time. Android 14 brought the charge counter to supported phones. It would be unreasonable to say they did not know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] ChildlessBambinoo@mastodon.green 0 points 1 year ago @limerod they took a leaf out of Apple's playbook with this decision permalink fedilink source parent
[β] limerod@reddthat.com [S] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) Maybe, google should've included the necessary hardware if it was going to bring the feature to pixel down the line. 7 yrs of updates with missing features does not inspire confidence in them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] HejMedDig@feddit.dk 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you would like them to put hardware into a model, made before they decided to add said hardware? So how about any new hardware added in the next Pixel, should they also have put that into previous Pixels? Software updates will always have hardware limitations permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] limerod@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 1 year ago Pixel 8 did not get the multi model Gemini update simply because it lacked the additional RAM needed for the LLM. Its the same with this feature. They brought battery health and charge counter in android 14. They could've bought this to pixel phones if google did not skimp on the hardware. Software updates will always have hardware limitations I know but, since they were going to work on this feature and had starting with android 14. It does not make sense to skimp on it for a year old hardware. Same with the RAM limitation on the pixel 8. permalink fedilink source parent [+] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] limerod@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) They have been working on the battery health feature for a time. Android 14 brought the charge counter to supported phones. It would be unreasonable to say they did not know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] ChildlessBambinoo@mastodon.green 0 points 1 year ago @limerod they took a leaf out of Apple's playbook with this decision permalink fedilink source parent
[β] HejMedDig@feddit.dk 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you would like them to put hardware into a model, made before they decided to add said hardware? So how about any new hardware added in the next Pixel, should they also have put that into previous Pixels? Software updates will always have hardware limitations permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] limerod@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 1 year ago Pixel 8 did not get the multi model Gemini update simply because it lacked the additional RAM needed for the LLM. Its the same with this feature. They brought battery health and charge counter in android 14. They could've bought this to pixel phones if google did not skimp on the hardware. Software updates will always have hardware limitations I know but, since they were going to work on this feature and had starting with android 14. It does not make sense to skimp on it for a year old hardware. Same with the RAM limitation on the pixel 8. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] limerod@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 1 year ago Pixel 8 did not get the multi model Gemini update simply because it lacked the additional RAM needed for the LLM. Its the same with this feature. They brought battery health and charge counter in android 14. They could've bought this to pixel phones if google did not skimp on the hardware. Software updates will always have hardware limitations I know but, since they were going to work on this feature and had starting with android 14. It does not make sense to skimp on it for a year old hardware. Same with the RAM limitation on the pixel 8. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] smeg@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] limerod@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) They have been working on the battery health feature for a time. Android 14 brought the charge counter to supported phones. It would be unreasonable to say they did not know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] limerod@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) They have been working on the battery health feature for a time. Android 14 brought the charge counter to supported phones. It would be unreasonable to say they did not know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] smeg@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ChildlessBambinoo@mastodon.green 0 points 1 year ago @limerod they took a leaf out of Apple's playbook with this decision permalink fedilink source parent
[β] DuskyRo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Is this different from battery information? On my LineageOS Xiaomi 12 Pro permalink fedilink source
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