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[–] 225 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Everything else aside... What the fuck is so urgent about cutting down forests that you need a emergency order to green-light it?

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  • [–] 235 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Nothing. The "emergency order" is entirely so he doesn't have to go through Congress to do it.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Quickly becoming his go to play. It's how he pushed through tariffs and how he was able to auto deport all those people. There's probably more that I'm unaware of but the amount of national emergencies the man has declared so far is kinda crazy

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  • Building "freedom cities" for billionaires, maybe. In his '23 announcement, it specifically stated:

    Freedom Cities will be built on federal land that is undeveloped and not part of any of our country’s magnificent national parks or other natural treasures.

    Which I assume means they'll be built on your parks?

    (for anyone scrolling past like, "wtf are freedom cities" - it's feudalism. The Company Town. Literally lords and serfs type shit. Plenty of good places to read more about it, but here's one to start.)

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    [–] 109 points 1 year ago (21 children)

    In 200 years people will ask in disbelief why such old forests were logged down.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    That’s if the planet survives till then, which at the rate things are going no way we make it that long

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    Check out where our forests were at at the end of the 1800’s. 90% of the trees in Michigan were gone. All current forests are new growth and under 150 years old here in Michigan.

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    [–] 74 points 1 year ago

    I love that this map still has the Gulf of Mexico.

    I hate that this will be done to our national forests. They're a natural treasure and should be protected for so many reasons.

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  • [–] 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It was nice to have a planet while it lasted, I guess.

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    [–] 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    Once again, we find out most of the past presidents just obeyed decorum and norms... Did no one consider that a bad-faith president would just say, "uh...'EMERGENCY!' " then he's allowed to bypass Congress and just do whatever the fuck he wants!?

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    [–] 64 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    "Emergency orders" designed to protect this country in case we're attacked are being used by presidents to sidestep the constitutional as it regards separation of powers. It's about time this shit came to an end also.

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    [–] 63 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Remember: a can of expanding foam can disable most any vehicle when sprayed in the right places.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Do chainsaws still snap and maim their wielders when they hit rebar in trees?

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    [–] 59 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    When the Ents had reduced a large part of the southern walls to rubbish, and what was left of his people had bolted and deserted him, Saruman fled in a panic. He seems to have been at the gates when we arrived: I expect he came to watch his splendid army march out. When the Ents broke their way in, he left in a hurry. They did not spot him at first. But the night had opened out, and there was a great light of stars, quite enough for Ents to see by, and suddenly Quickbeam gave a cry "The tree-killer, the tree-killer!" Quickbeam is a gentle creature, but he hates Saruman all the more fiercely for that: his people suffered cruelly from orc-axes. He leapt down the path from the inner gate, and he can move like a wind when he is roused. There was a pale figure hurrying away in and out of the shadows of the pillars, and it had nearly reached the stairs to the tower-door. But it was a near thing. Quickbeam was so hot after him, that he was within a step or two of being caught and strangled when he slipped in through the door.

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  • [–] 57 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Fuck, some of that will be last remaining old growth, forever lost

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Not happy with destroying our society anymore. Now they have to physically destroy our country.

    This is what happens when you allow conservatives to have control.

    I'd ask Americans to make better decisions going forward, but we all know that isn't happening.

    RIP.

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    [–] 45 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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    [–] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's an emergency!! We need lumber for... Things. Quick!

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    [–] 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    What’s the emergency? Climate change isn’t catastrophic enough yet?

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    [+] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
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    [–] 35 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    do you remember when in minecraft you chopped down a forest for wood and didn't replant it? remember how you had to go to triple the distance to find another one, wasting even more time?

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    [–] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This motherfucker wants to clear cut the boundary waters. All these special areas destroyed because they're not a beach side golf course or some tacky casino.

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    [–] 25 points 1 year ago (28 children)

    This is the exact same tactic this regime will use on the 20th of April to declare martial law. I’m really curious how long it took the Germans in the late 1930’s to call it what it was.

    This is a coup d’etat. Lots of people will die. The regime - even if DJT dies or gets shot - will go on. There won’t be any more fair elections. I hope these protests go from 5 million to 10 million on Saturday, because only a mass movement can stop this.

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    [–] 23 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    since Canadian lumber has a tariff making it so expensive now they will chop down the US forests for the value of lumber is high

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    [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Guaranteed way to speed up climate change

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What do they claim the emergency is?

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    [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Oh it looks like the area I hunt is in there. Damnit it was getting nice finally from when it was planted decades ago. Second generation trees are getting good sized.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Hypothetically, would literal tree-hugging (i.e. chaining myself to a tree) be an effective method of protest and prevention? Would the loggers cut me down anyways? Just a random thought.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    You're gonna get labeled a terrorist and probably shot

    The way to go is in the monkey wrenching book (forgot the full name:

    You take steel bars, and cut them to size

    Then you remove a piece of bark

    Drill a hole into the tree

    Put the steel rod in

    Glue the bark back on

    Do it at eye level-ish, that way you're not hurting the worker with a snapping chain, instead damaging the lumber mill. Bigger damage anyways

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