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[–] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Hypothetically, would literal tree-hugging (i.e. chaining myself to a tree) be an effective method of protest and prevention? Would the loggers cut me down anyways? Just a random thought.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You're gonna get labeled a terrorist and probably shot

    The way to go is in the monkey wrenching book (forgot the full name:

    You take steel bars, and cut them to size

    Then you remove a piece of bark

    Drill a hole into the tree

    Put the steel rod in

    Glue the bark back on

    Do it at eye level-ish, that way you're not hurting the worker with a snapping chain, instead damaging the lumber mill. Bigger damage anyways

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What do we use when they start checking the trees with metal detectors?

    I don't think cinder blocks would work as well

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Depends on what you mean by "effective." It might delay them for a few hours or a day. There's a long history of this kind of thing, although it's usually more effective to do a treesit rather than a lockdown for trees. You could do a lockdown on equipment like bulldozers/feller bunchers though. The Earth First! Direct Action Manual has a lot of info.

    Be prepared to be literally tortured in various ways, including pepperspray placed directly in your eyes, pain compliance holds, or they just cut the chains/lockbox you're in and if you get cut with it too bad.

    Personally I'm not a big fan of get-arrested-on-purpose types of direct action, but it has its uses. I strongly recommend that if you're going to do something like this you connect with a group that knows how to do it and you have a support crew, including jail/legal support.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Is there a such thing as pepper spray resistant eyewear?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Sure, lab safety goggles will protect you from pepper spray in most instances. But what eye protection you're wearing won't matter. You're chained to a tree. The cops can do literally anything they want to you, including ripping your safety glasses off and emptying a can of pepper spray directly in your eyes. See: the infamous case of the Pepper Spray 8

    Deputies pepper sprayed Mike McCurdy (above) and Noel Tendick directly in the eyes at close range while they were locked together through the tracks of a Pacific Lumber bulldozer on an old-growth redwood logging site. The activists endured the torture and did not unlock. Deputies then safely cut them loose with a portable grinder, as they could have done without using pepper spray, and as they had done hundreds of times in previous years.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Trees have been saved by people camping in them.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    That relies on the loggers fearing a murder charge. In Trump's America, would a logger be charged with murder for "accidentally" killing a tree hugging protestor?

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