What do you mean "IF" ?? There is no IF He just hasn't figured out how to succeed and get away with it. As soon as he has the answer to that..........

Do you not remember when Justin Trudeau met with Trump, and shortly afterward telling people that Trump was serious?

Trump is serious. He's incredibly brash and stupid, rife with tiny dick energy, which makes it dangerous.

Everything he says, he's serious about. Annexing Canada, Greenland, Panama canal, tariffs, not leaving office (currently floated as running for another term after this one), getting revenge on all his enemies, etc etc. All of it. How much of it he can actually do is however much he isn't stopped from doing.

Would he order use of force? I don't know. But the question isn't whether Hegseth would go along with it--of course he would. The question is how many American troops would follow the orders. IMO many or most would refuse. They (and the US populace) would view using military force against Canada in the same way they would view using military force against American citizens (which I would not be surprised to be ordered at some point). Other than a few hardcore magats, I believe we would never go along with a war against our Canadian cousins.

I think we left What If long ago.

He always is. The only question is if anyone with the power to stop him from doing whatever dumb as fuck thing has entered his diseased mind at the moment will stop him.

Troops in Ontario? They'll never get past the 401. It's impenetrable

Reminder that Canada has a population of over 40 million people and the Canada-US border is three times the length of the Eastern Front in WWII, which is by a long shot the largest front of any war in human history.

There is no if. He's serious.

Send rump up here to Canada. We'll take care of the problem that muricans cannot

What if? He is definitely serious about his Anschluss.

“Why would we do that?” said Frank Haynes, a 94-year-old Korean War veteran, who seemed utterly baffled by my absurd question.

That's pretty much what every American is thinking.

Half of all Canadians support joining the EU, and while I haven't seen a poll for us Europeans I'm sure we'd love to see it.

MAGA path to success

1. Leave NATO
2. Invade Canada, a NATO country, triggering Article 5
3. ???
4. Profit

I’m pretty sure we’ve all figured out our own personal insurrection style already.

Mine is penises in the dead mouth like the Viet Cong did. And blowing up Americans.

There’s no “what if he’s serious” here, the rest of the world with half a brain saw it already.

Given that Canada will never voluntarily join the US—which it is adamant about—would Trump try to use force to annex it? And would Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth go along with this crazy plan?

No. Also, the US tried this in 1812 and it was extremely unpopular with the American public, even moreso than the Vietnam War. And while Trump has a lot of leeway not to act on foreign policy, Congress has considerable power to constrain a President's actions in terms of war.

John Bolton did an interview recently with Kyiv Post, which addresed this specific question of Trump WRT Canada. I think a lot of people would benefit from watching the thing. Bolton worked in Trump's first cabinet, spent a long time watching him operate as President. The two did not part on good terms. Bolton's an internationalist, for context, bit of a hawk, and supports NATO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O99JIvjq9t0

I really think that the interview is a worthwhile watch, but I can give a pretty short summary:

"Trump is not part of some sort of grand master scheme run by Russia. He just has very little idea about how government works, or how to accomplish what he wants done, and tends to operate largely in terms of his own personal relationships, which is not really how international affairs actually work. Either Trump thinks of you as friendly to him or not. Trump treats international affairs more-or-less as being how much he likes a given leader personally. He doesn't like Justin Trudeau, so he insults and snipes at Canada. Sadly, it doesn't go a lot deeper than that. The chance of an actual attempt to annex Canada is slim to none."

EDIT: I should note

Bolton has discussed Trump's positions on Greenland prior to this, to give prior material on the matter

that Trump actually does want to buy Greenland and that this came up repeatedly in his first administration, that he'd like it to kind of be his legacy for the US. Bolton points out that isn't new to Trump, as prior administrations have made offers to buy it. That isn't a joke. Trump just has no idea how to actually go about trying to buy the thing, and so is busily pissing off both Denmark and Greenland, which pretty much ensures that he can't.

EDIT2: Bolton did point out that he would say that Putin probably considers Trump to be an "easy mark", someone who probably would do a poor job negotiating and who can be manipulated.

These are modern social psychological wars. If he doesn't use military he will use social psychology, they same way they did in USA. The idea is to make you guys annex yourself.

Understand American politics like Mafia life. That is the mentality and style. They will get naive people to become their pressure machine. The people won't even understand what they are doing. Joe Nobody will put pressure on his neighbors for a political mob boss to gain power, but Joe Nobody will think he's an American hero and not understand the politics is nothing but business and he won't be on the receiving end of the Bosses gains. Its similar to how gangs and organized crime use people in the street.

This is how I've seen it work in USA since 2016.

Trump is only serious about it because if Canada isn't part of the United States, Vice President Musk can never take over when he is gone.

Yes, it all sucks, but this is just diversion to distract from the actual authoritarian takeover of the us government. Canada is safe from a military action by the US.