πŸ–• Fuck PayPal

And fuck Linus Tech Tips for intentionally keeping quiet about this after they found out.

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[–] 266 points 2 years ago* (5 children)

I said it in another post: if you see a bunch of influencers all suddenly peddling the same stuff, stay away. All of them can be bought.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Especially anything from Linus, they’re a very scummy group.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago* (14 children)

    Am I the only one who, upon seeing his videos for the first time, immediately thought he was an annoying little pinhead?

    Like, I've watched his channel(s) surge in popularity over the years, and this entire time I've just been wondering why, and the issues that have come out about his little empire since have only confirmed my initial prejudice.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Their entire video is an ad filled experience of shilling not only their sponsors but themselves. Incredibly obnoxious and cramming in every YouTube stereotype from begging for likes and subs to clickbait titles and then insisting they have to do it so they can have their cake and eat it makes them even more obnoxious than if they just did it without wanting to be forgiven for it.

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    [–] 209 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I never trusted Honey to begin with but this goes far deeper than I ever expected. I always wondered "yeah, but where do they get their money?" I always figured it was just a way to take people's data and sell it to data brokers (which they probably also do, let's be honest) but this is just blatant fraud. Stealing affiliate money from links and having companies pay them to purposefully give out worse coupon codes is just devious through and through. It's basically free money and everybody else, whether influencer or consumer, get fucked over in the process.

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  • [–] 86 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Yeah I always wondered what the catch was? The CEO was always posting on Reddit trying to defend honey and how cool they were.

    Either way, I never trust any shopping deal plugins. The whole idea of them is sketchy.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Only shopping plugin I use is the one that comes with Edge. Surprisingly good to track price history and find other sites selling the product. I considered some Chrome plugin that displays an Amazon product's country of origin to avoid Chinesium but apparently it didn't work well or something like that from reading the reviews. Had some attached rewards function for shopping with it, ick.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I always assumed it was a combination of your guess and companies giving Honey special coupon codes so consumers are more eager to spend.

    "Hey Honey, we'll give you 1% commission if you just host this HONEY5 coupon for 5% off."

    That was my impression when I used it once. Wasn't worth having an extension just for a slight discount. Love when a company doesn't fulfill the service they advertise.

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    [–] 87 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    If you're sitting at a poker table and you can't tell who the sucker is, it's you.

    Alternately, if you look at an online service and can't tell what the product is, It's you.

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    [–] 80 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    A useful question to ask when hearing about a new company is "What's your business model?"

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    [–] 62 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Ever since it was explained that Mr. Beast only smiles with his mouth, I get skeeved out every time I see him.

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    [–] 60 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I used honey for a while and it was working great for me with "exclusive" coupons and Cashback and then one time I bough a cellphone that was supposed to have $250 cashback. I did all the necessary steps, read the t&c, took screenshots of the offer and made the purchase. I never got the transaction to appear on their website. Sending emails it trying to contact them was futile (I even made an automatic script to send an email everyday to follow up). Fuck PayPal

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  • [–] 49 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I'm so proud I never consumed these guys shit

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    [–] 49 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    PayPal is not customer friendly, they also straight up steal funds by locking your account

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    [–] 47 points 2 years ago

    I thought it was just collecting and selling user data but while I'd bet it's still happening - wow, this is way craftier.

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  • [–] 45 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I haven't trusted LTT for about 5 years now.

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    [–] 41 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    If something advertises on youtube it’s a scam. Simple to remember really.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    I don't mind things that are an actual thing to buy. I want to research it first--you can get a better electric razor than Manscaped for not much more--but at least it's clear how they make their money. Honey was obviously getting money from someone other than their users, and that's an immediate red flag.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    I and many other people naturally assumed that honey was getting their money from consumer data collection. Which is why I didn't use the service myself. The surprise is the fact that the scam isn't just consumer data collection but actually stealing commissions from content creators as well as using consumers as a gateway to stealing money from businesses that they have contracts with.

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    [–] 36 points 2 years ago

    Just open their privacy policy and done. They sell your browsing info, and you could stop it there

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Pretty sure this was already posted yesterday when it came out. Or it might have been a different community.

    Watching the full video is important though because they are scamming the consumer too, not just """influencers""". Someone made a great comment about how it's just one greedy troll stealing from another and has no effect on the consumer since they still save money but Honey not actually giving you the best coupons on purpose is next level dickholery.

    Lying about the coupons really should be the focus so people stop harming themselves using Honey.

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    [–] 35 points 2 years ago

    Just saw a video that the honey people are making another SCAM called PIE. They make an Ad blocker, then put their own ads. wtf.

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/VTxnM3J0I0k?width=828&height=466

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    Linus Tech Tips really is scum. Yet more proof of that.

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    [–] 32 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Ltt didn't hide shit, they posted it on a public forum

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Some very vocal people on Lemmy just love hating on LTT. I don't think this topic was worth them making a main channel video on, I think their forum post was good and I believe they even mentioned this functionality of Honey a few times on the WAN show. It wasn't a secret, and anyone who cared to do in-depth research on a potential sponsor could have found out.

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    At this point, anything these goons "influencers" try to sell me on is a scam, and I'll avoid it at all costs. People do insane things for money. Just watched a coffeezilla video on the CSGO gambling scam and holy shit, people are straight up heartless and have no humanity in them.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Everybody: Fuck Peter Thiel, fuck Elon Musk, fuck Honey, Fuck PayPal

    Everybody: unflinchingly using PayPal

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    I have been using PayPal increasingly for online payments. Not sure why. I have heard old stories about PayPal but Honey seems really bad. Its basically a given that any fintech company are going to be dodgy scammers but PayPal seemed almost grown up and respectable. Guess not.

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Honestly I thought all of this was common knowledge at this point, back when I used Honey (many years ago) I saw its affiliate code in the address bar and thought "huh, that's how they make money"

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