โฒ 1068 โผ PayPal Honey steals affiliate links and lies about finding the best coupons (youtube.com) submitted 2 years ago* by HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.world 211 comments fedilink hide all child comments ๐ Fuck PayPal And fuck Linus Tech Tips for intentionally keeping quiet about this after they found out.
[+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml [S] 42 points 2 years ago* (2 children) They're one of the largest tech media companies and deliberately chose to sweep this under the rug instead of reporting on it. Then they took sponsorships from Karma, which is a competitor to Honey that does the exact same thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] tabular@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) LTT says to have not known users were being mistreated at the time they dropped the sponsor, and that they didn't discover it but were informed. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -25 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] worsedoughnut@lemdro.id 11 points 2 years ago When did they learn about it? Where your proof? Watch the video. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) seriously... did you watch the video? https://youtu.be/vc4yL3YTwWk?t=785 Here. Here's a link to the exact moment that entire chapter starts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) ... Ok well here's the link to the moment (in the video you watched) where we have one **staff ** member giving an official response to how LTT interpreted the problem in a forum post on their website. https://youtu.be/vc4yL3YTwWk?t=811 And here's a link to their youtube channel where they talk about honey https://www.youtube.com/@LinusTechTips/search?query=honey You'll notice. There isn't one. So for at least two years, they knew honey was stealing affiliate links and considered it a big enough problem to end their partnership, but did not consider it a big enough issue to make a video on it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm down to listen to their response myself but as someone who tried really hard to explain away their last dumb controversy only to be proven wrong multiple times, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just pure negligence. Actions speak louder than words and their actions have shown they're a flawed company like any other despite what their conversations on WAN show would have you believe. Fuck Honey/PayPal first and foremost, don't get me wrong. But unless there were legal issues around it, we also can't ignore it if the biggest tech YouTube channel found out about one of the biggest sponsors on YouTube being a scam, stopped working with them for that reason, but said absolutely nothing to anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] tabular@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Linus said they were unaware Honey was being bad for users when they dropped Honey. I'm unaware of when Honey was purposely giving users not the best coupons - did that happen back then? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Wogi@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) First of all, Lemmy has a lot of users for whom English is a second language. So maybe don't be a jackass about correcting grammar. Secondly, in case you happen to be in that group of people 'largest media company' in this context applies to their reach, and not to their actual size. They are 'large' because they have a large audience, generate a lot of revenue, and are worth a lot of money. LMG also comprises 10 different YouTube channels with maybe 10 billion views between them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] tabular@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sometimes people exaggerate and if you point out what they said is inaccurate then they get mad you're not addressing their main point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml [S] 42 points 2 years ago* (2 children) They're one of the largest tech media companies and deliberately chose to sweep this under the rug instead of reporting on it. Then they took sponsorships from Karma, which is a competitor to Honey that does the exact same thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] tabular@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) LTT says to have not known users were being mistreated at the time they dropped the sponsor, and that they didn't discover it but were informed. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -25 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] worsedoughnut@lemdro.id 11 points 2 years ago When did they learn about it? Where your proof? Watch the video. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) seriously... did you watch the video? https://youtu.be/vc4yL3YTwWk?t=785 Here. Here's a link to the exact moment that entire chapter starts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) ... Ok well here's the link to the moment (in the video you watched) where we have one **staff ** member giving an official response to how LTT interpreted the problem in a forum post on their website. https://youtu.be/vc4yL3YTwWk?t=811 And here's a link to their youtube channel where they talk about honey https://www.youtube.com/@LinusTechTips/search?query=honey You'll notice. There isn't one. So for at least two years, they knew honey was stealing affiliate links and considered it a big enough problem to end their partnership, but did not consider it a big enough issue to make a video on it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm down to listen to their response myself but as someone who tried really hard to explain away their last dumb controversy only to be proven wrong multiple times, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just pure negligence. Actions speak louder than words and their actions have shown they're a flawed company like any other despite what their conversations on WAN show would have you believe. Fuck Honey/PayPal first and foremost, don't get me wrong. But unless there were legal issues around it, we also can't ignore it if the biggest tech YouTube channel found out about one of the biggest sponsors on YouTube being a scam, stopped working with them for that reason, but said absolutely nothing to anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] tabular@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Linus said they were unaware Honey was being bad for users when they dropped Honey. I'm unaware of when Honey was purposely giving users not the best coupons - did that happen back then? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Wogi@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) First of all, Lemmy has a lot of users for whom English is a second language. So maybe don't be a jackass about correcting grammar. Secondly, in case you happen to be in that group of people 'largest media company' in this context applies to their reach, and not to their actual size. They are 'large' because they have a large audience, generate a lot of revenue, and are worth a lot of money. LMG also comprises 10 different YouTube channels with maybe 10 billion views between them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] tabular@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sometimes people exaggerate and if you point out what they said is inaccurate then they get mad you're not addressing their main point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] tabular@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) LTT says to have not known users were being mistreated at the time they dropped the sponsor, and that they didn't discover it but were informed. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -25 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] worsedoughnut@lemdro.id 11 points 2 years ago When did they learn about it? Where your proof? Watch the video. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) seriously... did you watch the video? https://youtu.be/vc4yL3YTwWk?t=785 Here. Here's a link to the exact moment that entire chapter starts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) ... Ok well here's the link to the moment (in the video you watched) where we have one **staff ** member giving an official response to how LTT interpreted the problem in a forum post on their website. https://youtu.be/vc4yL3YTwWk?t=811 And here's a link to their youtube channel where they talk about honey https://www.youtube.com/@LinusTechTips/search?query=honey You'll notice. There isn't one. So for at least two years, they knew honey was stealing affiliate links and considered it a big enough problem to end their partnership, but did not consider it a big enough issue to make a video on it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm down to listen to their response myself but as someone who tried really hard to explain away their last dumb controversy only to be proven wrong multiple times, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just pure negligence. Actions speak louder than words and their actions have shown they're a flawed company like any other despite what their conversations on WAN show would have you believe. Fuck Honey/PayPal first and foremost, don't get me wrong. But unless there were legal issues around it, we also can't ignore it if the biggest tech YouTube channel found out about one of the biggest sponsors on YouTube being a scam, stopped working with them for that reason, but said absolutely nothing to anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] tabular@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Linus said they were unaware Honey was being bad for users when they dropped Honey. I'm unaware of when Honey was purposely giving users not the best coupons - did that happen back then? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Wogi@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) First of all, Lemmy has a lot of users for whom English is a second language. So maybe don't be a jackass about correcting grammar. Secondly, in case you happen to be in that group of people 'largest media company' in this context applies to their reach, and not to their actual size. They are 'large' because they have a large audience, generate a lot of revenue, and are worth a lot of money. LMG also comprises 10 different YouTube channels with maybe 10 billion views between them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] tabular@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sometimes people exaggerate and if you point out what they said is inaccurate then they get mad you're not addressing their main point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] worsedoughnut@lemdro.id 11 points 2 years ago When did they learn about it? Where your proof? Watch the video. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) seriously... did you watch the video? https://youtu.be/vc4yL3YTwWk?t=785 Here. Here's a link to the exact moment that entire chapter starts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) ... Ok well here's the link to the moment (in the video you watched) where we have one **staff ** member giving an official response to how LTT interpreted the problem in a forum post on their website. https://youtu.be/vc4yL3YTwWk?t=811 And here's a link to their youtube channel where they talk about honey https://www.youtube.com/@LinusTechTips/search?query=honey You'll notice. There isn't one. So for at least two years, they knew honey was stealing affiliate links and considered it a big enough problem to end their partnership, but did not consider it a big enough issue to make a video on it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm down to listen to their response myself but as someone who tried really hard to explain away their last dumb controversy only to be proven wrong multiple times, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just pure negligence. Actions speak louder than words and their actions have shown they're a flawed company like any other despite what their conversations on WAN show would have you believe. Fuck Honey/PayPal first and foremost, don't get me wrong. But unless there were legal issues around it, we also can't ignore it if the biggest tech YouTube channel found out about one of the biggest sponsors on YouTube being a scam, stopped working with them for that reason, but said absolutely nothing to anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] tabular@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Linus said they were unaware Honey was being bad for users when they dropped Honey. I'm unaware of when Honey was purposely giving users not the best coupons - did that happen back then? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) ... Ok well here's the link to the moment (in the video you watched) where we have one **staff ** member giving an official response to how LTT interpreted the problem in a forum post on their website. https://youtu.be/vc4yL3YTwWk?t=811 And here's a link to their youtube channel where they talk about honey https://www.youtube.com/@LinusTechTips/search?query=honey You'll notice. There isn't one. So for at least two years, they knew honey was stealing affiliate links and considered it a big enough problem to end their partnership, but did not consider it a big enough issue to make a video on it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm down to listen to their response myself but as someone who tried really hard to explain away their last dumb controversy only to be proven wrong multiple times, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just pure negligence. Actions speak louder than words and their actions have shown they're a flawed company like any other despite what their conversations on WAN show would have you believe. Fuck Honey/PayPal first and foremost, don't get me wrong. But unless there were legal issues around it, we also can't ignore it if the biggest tech YouTube channel found out about one of the biggest sponsors on YouTube being a scam, stopped working with them for that reason, but said absolutely nothing to anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] tabular@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Linus said they were unaware Honey was being bad for users when they dropped Honey. I'm unaware of when Honey was purposely giving users not the best coupons - did that happen back then? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) ... Ok well here's the link to the moment (in the video you watched) where we have one **staff ** member giving an official response to how LTT interpreted the problem in a forum post on their website. https://youtu.be/vc4yL3YTwWk?t=811 And here's a link to their youtube channel where they talk about honey https://www.youtube.com/@LinusTechTips/search?query=honey You'll notice. There isn't one. So for at least two years, they knew honey was stealing affiliate links and considered it a big enough problem to end their partnership, but did not consider it a big enough issue to make a video on it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm down to listen to their response myself but as someone who tried really hard to explain away their last dumb controversy only to be proven wrong multiple times, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just pure negligence. Actions speak louder than words and their actions have shown they're a flawed company like any other despite what their conversations on WAN show would have you believe. Fuck Honey/PayPal first and foremost, don't get me wrong. But unless there were legal issues around it, we also can't ignore it if the biggest tech YouTube channel found out about one of the biggest sponsors on YouTube being a scam, stopped working with them for that reason, but said absolutely nothing to anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] tabular@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Linus said they were unaware Honey was being bad for users when they dropped Honey. I'm unaware of when Honey was purposely giving users not the best coupons - did that happen back then? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm down to listen to their response myself but as someone who tried really hard to explain away their last dumb controversy only to be proven wrong multiple times, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just pure negligence. Actions speak louder than words and their actions have shown they're a flawed company like any other despite what their conversations on WAN show would have you believe. Fuck Honey/PayPal first and foremost, don't get me wrong. But unless there were legal issues around it, we also can't ignore it if the biggest tech YouTube channel found out about one of the biggest sponsors on YouTube being a scam, stopped working with them for that reason, but said absolutely nothing to anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] tabular@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Linus said they were unaware Honey was being bad for users when they dropped Honey. I'm unaware of when Honey was purposely giving users not the best coupons - did that happen back then? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm down to listen to their response myself but as someone who tried really hard to explain away their last dumb controversy only to be proven wrong multiple times, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just pure negligence. Actions speak louder than words and their actions have shown they're a flawed company like any other despite what their conversations on WAN show would have you believe. Fuck Honey/PayPal first and foremost, don't get me wrong. But unless there were legal issues around it, we also can't ignore it if the biggest tech YouTube channel found out about one of the biggest sponsors on YouTube being a scam, stopped working with them for that reason, but said absolutely nothing to anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] tabular@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Linus said they were unaware Honey was being bad for users when they dropped Honey. I'm unaware of when Honey was purposely giving users not the best coupons - did that happen back then? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] tabular@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Linus said they were unaware Honey was being bad for users when they dropped Honey. I'm unaware of when Honey was purposely giving users not the best coupons - did that happen back then? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Wogi@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) First of all, Lemmy has a lot of users for whom English is a second language. So maybe don't be a jackass about correcting grammar. Secondly, in case you happen to be in that group of people 'largest media company' in this context applies to their reach, and not to their actual size. They are 'large' because they have a large audience, generate a lot of revenue, and are worth a lot of money. LMG also comprises 10 different YouTube channels with maybe 10 billion views between them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] tabular@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sometimes people exaggerate and if you point out what they said is inaccurate then they get mad you're not addressing their main point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] tabular@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sometimes people exaggerate and if you point out what they said is inaccurate then they get mad you're not addressing their main point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] tabular@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sometimes people exaggerate and if you point out what they said is inaccurate then they get mad you're not addressing their main point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent