These days, kids identify them by the aspect ratio.

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[–] 74 points 3 years ago (7 children)

And video quality. Watching some historical videos from my childhood, like tv shows on youtube.... the quality is pure potato. Either the archiving is terrible, or we just accepted much worse quality back then.

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  • [–] [S] 31 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    People always said that Betamax was better quality than VHS. What never gets mentioned is that regular consumer TVs at the time weren't capable of displaying the difference in quality. To the average person they were the same.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    There's a lot of archival video that is just terrible. Digital video compression issues have damaged a lot of old footage that's gotten shared over the years, especially YouTube's encoders. They will just straight up murder videos to save bandwidth. There's also a lot of stuff that just doesn't look great when it's being upscaled from magnetic media that's 240x320 at best.

    However, there's also a lot of stuff that was bad to begin with and just took advantage of things like scanlines and dithering to make up for poor video quality. Take old games for example. There's a lot of developers who took advantage of CRT TVs to create shading, smoothing, and the illusion of a higher resolution that a console just wasn't capable of. There's a lot of contention in the retro gaming community over whether games looked better with scanlines or if they look better now without them.

    For example.

    Personally, I prefer them without. I like the crisp pixelly edges, but I was also lucky enough to play most of my games on a high quality monitor instead of a TV back then. Then emulators, upscaling, and pixel smoothing became a thing...

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    [–] 57 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    I do by audio quality. We currently live in the age of badly understandable dialogues.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Sure, microphones got better but there is more too it. One huge factor is the mixing for cinemas and not for home theaters or worse for TV speaker.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago

    This video was exactly what first came to mind when I read "badly understandable dialogues"! It bothers me that as we got better mics, the actors became more unintelligible instead of the other way as one would predict.

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    [–] 37 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    ... or how blurry the image is (SD vs HD).

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  • [–] 28 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    When I was a kid I used to think black and white meant the TV show or whatever used to be in color but since it got old it turned black and white. My thought process was they changed color just like old people's hair turns grey... This was 35 years ago before internet.

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    [–] 23 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Even early 16:9 stuff looks pretty dated now if it hasn't been remastered to 1080/4k.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago

    That's such a trip. Only a 6 year difference between the two of you, yet you experienced the dawn of something and they didn't, and it shapes both of your perspectives so much.

    Even though it technically applies to transistors, Moore's Law has been a good barometer for the increase of complexity and capabilities of technology in general. And now because of your comment I'm kinda thinking that since the applicability of that law seems to be nearing its end, it's either tech will stagnate in the next decade (possible, but I think unlikely), or we may be due for another leapfrog into a higher level of sophistication (more likely).

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    [–] 18 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    The real differentiator is pacing and editing.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    Especially in action scenes. I used to watch Hawaii five O the 2010 version and sometimes a chanal showed the old version with the same name, the are so incredibly different in pacing and the amount of violence. I really liked the old one in that regard, much less shooting and blood.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago

    It's not so back and white anymore, is it

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Re-watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer with my kids in new hi-def, and you can clearly and easily see the stunt doubles now, and the SFX look really dated now that you can see them clearly.

    It's amazing what old CRTs would let you get away with.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    Lotta old shows are re-formated just to have the wider screen, since they would still film at higher res for movies or just because. It's not just an indication of age if something is still only in 4:3, it's an indication of thrift or just a general lack of giving a shit about the future.

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    [–] 8 points 3 years ago

    Also the quality of the show go watch old Thomas the Tank Engine and compare it to the new one

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Can always tell when a show is 4:3 aspect. Recently I've noticed some modern TV shows adopting the theater aspects of flat (1.85:1) or scope (2.4:1) which I think is pretty cool. The last episode of Strange New Worlds I watched was in scope, that's some high end filming.

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    [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    I identified them by awkward haircuts and clothing styles. I knew something was off / wrong, but it wasn't until adulthood that I was able to piece it together.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I have a relative who says their children won't watch 2D animated features because they are old

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Asteroid City switched between aspect ratios as well as switching between black&white as they swapped between the TV story and the 'real'/cinema story.

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