▲ 2791 ▼ So, Neuralink got FDA approval for human trials, and a certain fanbase is VERY excited about that (lemmy.ml) submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by abieNathanTheyThem@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml 280 comments fedilink hide all child comments Commodification of everything you think off Past/Present/Future. https://fosstodon.org/@jimsalter/110441094176772187
[–] noodlejetski@geddit.social 220 points 3 years ago (8 children) and 3 years later they'll end the support. https://spectrum.ieee.org/bionic-eye-obsolete permalink fedilink source hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 106 points 3 years ago This was the original cyberpunk-transhumanist message. Not "cybernetics will destroy your soul" but "corporations own your body, or worse parts of your body" permalink fedilink source parent [–] Helldiver_M@kbin.social 73 points 3 years ago That's a new hell-on-eath I wasn't aware of. Yikes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Coeus@coeus.sbs 72 points 3 years ago (2 children) A good argument for open source permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 3 years ago (1 child) I love my FLOSS penis permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 26 points 3 years ago (1 child) So, soft-ware? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 years ago (3 children) Sometimes it's hardware permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago* Schrödinware permalink fedilink source parent [–] sulgoth@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago Occasionally just firmware. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) Sometimes software, sometimes hardware.. it's the new semi-ware! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago Lol, flaccidware permalink fedilink source parent [+] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] manned_meatball@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) And even if open source doesn't fit their business model for any reason, there should be regulations that force these companies to open source everything in any situation that they stop offering support. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DetectiveSanity@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I've meditated about this a while now! Imagine the amount of electronic waste produced by planned obsolescence! You have a phone, TV, car and much more that could be diagnosed, repaired and reused for same or all different use cases. All those phones that still are running LineageOS perfectly fine that could be used by the elderly who need not have much more than basic communication. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Frigidlollipop@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 years ago (1 child) Terrifying. No government bailout for improving people's life quality... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 years ago* No, they're far too busy using taxpayer money to bail out banks and businesses that are "too big to fail". permalink fedilink source parent [–] fades@beehaw.org 17 points 3 years ago Wow that made me so fucking uncomfortable, from the serious adverse affects requiring surgical intervention, the company trying to shout down negativity and just leaving these poor people to continue suffering…. It’s all so horrid, I can’t imagine the stress and impact permalink fedilink source parent [–] CAPSLOCKFTW@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago* Thanks for sharing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Well that's fucking bleak, at least I got a good chuckle out of this NPM’s novel implant for drug delivery. So that's how they keep JavaScript devs hooked! permalink fedilink source parent [+] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works -12 points 3 years ago* (2 children) 3 years later they’ll end the support I don't think that's a fair characterization - it sounds like they ran out of money and the company that bought all their assets didn't maintain support. In that company's defense, it's really hard to maintain support for something when you've bought the IP but you don't have any of the institutional knowledge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sciawp@lemm.ee 24 points 3 years ago (1 child) Maybe it’s a hot take but if you are giving life-altering treatments, and your company goes under, you should open-source everything permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Would that even be legal? The company has obligations to its creditors and shareholders; simply giving away potentially valuable intellectual property right before going under seems to violate those obligations. And it's the sort of violation for which someone might be personally held liable. I'm not claiming that a company can never open-source anything, but rather than they have to have a plausible business case for doing so. And I don't see a plausible business (as opposed to humanitarian) case here... But I'm not a corporate lawyer, just someone interested in this sort of thing. Edit: there's also the FDA to consider. If you make medical devices and you want to release the source code, you probably need to demonstrate that it's safe for users to reprogram their devices (and it's not safe). permalink fedilink source parent [–] noodlejetski@geddit.social 18 points 3 years ago regardless of the the reason, people ended up with non-functional eye implants. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 106 points 3 years ago This was the original cyberpunk-transhumanist message. Not "cybernetics will destroy your soul" but "corporations own your body, or worse parts of your body" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Helldiver_M@kbin.social 73 points 3 years ago That's a new hell-on-eath I wasn't aware of. Yikes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Coeus@coeus.sbs 72 points 3 years ago (2 children) A good argument for open source permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 3 years ago (1 child) I love my FLOSS penis permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 26 points 3 years ago (1 child) So, soft-ware? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 years ago (3 children) Sometimes it's hardware permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago* Schrödinware permalink fedilink source parent [–] sulgoth@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago Occasionally just firmware. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) Sometimes software, sometimes hardware.. it's the new semi-ware! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago Lol, flaccidware permalink fedilink source parent [+] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] manned_meatball@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) And even if open source doesn't fit their business model for any reason, there should be regulations that force these companies to open source everything in any situation that they stop offering support. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DetectiveSanity@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I've meditated about this a while now! Imagine the amount of electronic waste produced by planned obsolescence! You have a phone, TV, car and much more that could be diagnosed, repaired and reused for same or all different use cases. All those phones that still are running LineageOS perfectly fine that could be used by the elderly who need not have much more than basic communication. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 3 years ago (1 child) I love my FLOSS penis permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 26 points 3 years ago (1 child) So, soft-ware? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 years ago (3 children) Sometimes it's hardware permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago* Schrödinware permalink fedilink source parent [–] sulgoth@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago Occasionally just firmware. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) Sometimes software, sometimes hardware.. it's the new semi-ware! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago Lol, flaccidware permalink fedilink source parent [+] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] oce@jlai.lu 26 points 3 years ago (1 child) So, soft-ware? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 years ago (3 children) Sometimes it's hardware permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago* Schrödinware permalink fedilink source parent [–] sulgoth@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago Occasionally just firmware. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) Sometimes software, sometimes hardware.. it's the new semi-ware! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago Lol, flaccidware permalink fedilink source parent [+] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 years ago (3 children) Sometimes it's hardware permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago* Schrödinware permalink fedilink source parent [–] sulgoth@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago Occasionally just firmware. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) Sometimes software, sometimes hardware.. it's the new semi-ware! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago Lol, flaccidware permalink fedilink source parent [+] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sulgoth@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago Occasionally just firmware. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) Sometimes software, sometimes hardware.. it's the new semi-ware! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago Lol, flaccidware permalink fedilink source parent [+] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] manned_meatball@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) And even if open source doesn't fit their business model for any reason, there should be regulations that force these companies to open source everything in any situation that they stop offering support. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DetectiveSanity@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I've meditated about this a while now! Imagine the amount of electronic waste produced by planned obsolescence! You have a phone, TV, car and much more that could be diagnosed, repaired and reused for same or all different use cases. All those phones that still are running LineageOS perfectly fine that could be used by the elderly who need not have much more than basic communication. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DetectiveSanity@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago I've meditated about this a while now! Imagine the amount of electronic waste produced by planned obsolescence! You have a phone, TV, car and much more that could be diagnosed, repaired and reused for same or all different use cases. All those phones that still are running LineageOS perfectly fine that could be used by the elderly who need not have much more than basic communication. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frigidlollipop@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 years ago (1 child) Terrifying. No government bailout for improving people's life quality... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 years ago* No, they're far too busy using taxpayer money to bail out banks and businesses that are "too big to fail". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 years ago* No, they're far too busy using taxpayer money to bail out banks and businesses that are "too big to fail". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fades@beehaw.org 17 points 3 years ago Wow that made me so fucking uncomfortable, from the serious adverse affects requiring surgical intervention, the company trying to shout down negativity and just leaving these poor people to continue suffering…. It’s all so horrid, I can’t imagine the stress and impact permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Well that's fucking bleak, at least I got a good chuckle out of this NPM’s novel implant for drug delivery. So that's how they keep JavaScript devs hooked! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works -12 points 3 years ago* (2 children) 3 years later they’ll end the support I don't think that's a fair characterization - it sounds like they ran out of money and the company that bought all their assets didn't maintain support. In that company's defense, it's really hard to maintain support for something when you've bought the IP but you don't have any of the institutional knowledge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sciawp@lemm.ee 24 points 3 years ago (1 child) Maybe it’s a hot take but if you are giving life-altering treatments, and your company goes under, you should open-source everything permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Would that even be legal? The company has obligations to its creditors and shareholders; simply giving away potentially valuable intellectual property right before going under seems to violate those obligations. And it's the sort of violation for which someone might be personally held liable. I'm not claiming that a company can never open-source anything, but rather than they have to have a plausible business case for doing so. And I don't see a plausible business (as opposed to humanitarian) case here... But I'm not a corporate lawyer, just someone interested in this sort of thing. Edit: there's also the FDA to consider. If you make medical devices and you want to release the source code, you probably need to demonstrate that it's safe for users to reprogram their devices (and it's not safe). permalink fedilink source parent [–] noodlejetski@geddit.social 18 points 3 years ago regardless of the the reason, people ended up with non-functional eye implants. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sciawp@lemm.ee 24 points 3 years ago (1 child) Maybe it’s a hot take but if you are giving life-altering treatments, and your company goes under, you should open-source everything permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Would that even be legal? The company has obligations to its creditors and shareholders; simply giving away potentially valuable intellectual property right before going under seems to violate those obligations. And it's the sort of violation for which someone might be personally held liable. I'm not claiming that a company can never open-source anything, but rather than they have to have a plausible business case for doing so. And I don't see a plausible business (as opposed to humanitarian) case here... But I'm not a corporate lawyer, just someone interested in this sort of thing. Edit: there's also the FDA to consider. If you make medical devices and you want to release the source code, you probably need to demonstrate that it's safe for users to reprogram their devices (and it's not safe). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Would that even be legal? The company has obligations to its creditors and shareholders; simply giving away potentially valuable intellectual property right before going under seems to violate those obligations. And it's the sort of violation for which someone might be personally held liable. I'm not claiming that a company can never open-source anything, but rather than they have to have a plausible business case for doing so. And I don't see a plausible business (as opposed to humanitarian) case here... But I'm not a corporate lawyer, just someone interested in this sort of thing. Edit: there's also the FDA to consider. If you make medical devices and you want to release the source code, you probably need to demonstrate that it's safe for users to reprogram their devices (and it's not safe). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] noodlejetski@geddit.social 18 points 3 years ago regardless of the the reason, people ended up with non-functional eye implants. permalink fedilink source parent