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[–] 57 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm perpetually out of the loop. Did Trump's emails get leaked?

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's wild. Any idea what media outlet specifically it was leaked to?

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  • [+] 61 points 2 years ago (1 child)
  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I wonder why it wasn’t sent to wikileaks?

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    Yes and no; technically they're an independent entity but they've been used as useful idiots by Russian intelligence so many times at this point they're effectively Russian

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  • [+] -8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    No, the whole "Wikileaks is a Russian asset" story is a farce used to unjustly discredit them, since they've published some extremely damning documents.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It might be because RT gave Assange his talk show on state run tv, RT claimed WikiLeaks as a partner, Assange dumped the 2016 emails after Trump's "Russia if your listening" statement, or because after Assange claimed the hacker that provided WikiLeaks with those 2016 emails wasn't Russian, he was.

    If you step back and squint, it kind of looks like he was working with Russia because of all the work with Russia.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I mean, that’s not entirely true. Yeah, there has been a long history of US based organizations, particularly governmental ones, trying to stop Wikileaks, capture Snowden, and generally just punish whistleblowers so brutally is deters anyone else from doing it.

    But that doesn’t mean that as the years went on, the mission of Wikileaks changed as they seemed to adopt a particular goal that wasn’t just “shining a light on corruption.”

    So it’s not as simple as “it’s a Russian asset” and it’s not as simple as “they’re being smeared for spilling govt secrets.” It’s a mixture of the two, but not only, and not entirely.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    You're right, it does not mean the mission of WikiLeaks changed. It clearly hasn't. They still have never had to retract a single document or story.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    But weren’t some of the Clinton email leaks proven to be planted?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)
    1. The Clinton emails were first released by the State Department under FOIA. (WikiLeaks were first to publish the different archives of the Podesta email leak and the DNC email leak.) Both WL and the Wall Street Journal each made the Clinton emails into a searchable database.
    2. WikiLeaks has never had to retract a single document or story.
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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    But I thought it was Iran that hacked Trump. Surely they have media that can make this info available.

    No, that makes sense. They have the time and energy to hack the Trump campaign email servers. But somehow lack the ability to make that information public. Yeah, that makes much more sense.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    No, they specifically didn’t get leaked. And that’s the story. Trump’s team got hacked, and the hackers sent the emails to the news outlets. The outlets protected Trump, and refused to publish the emails.

    Which is in stark contrast to what happened when Hillary’s emails got sent to the news outlets. The outlets were clambering to be the first to publish them.

    Almost as if the outlets have a strong bias…

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  • [+] -33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    They did not wipe all the emails. Her team sorted through to send only the ones which were subpeonaed, which is what you are supposed to do.

    And the DNC hack is what the original post probably meant, but people mix all this stuff up. Those were published on Wikileaks and generated super productive controversies, such as pizzagate.

    And it isn't illegal per se to use private email. It's extremely common, but should be cracked down on. A big problem with it is age. Try telling your grandma she has to use a different email when she contacts you about certain topics.

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    Nixon was impeached for deleting 8 minutes of his own personal audio recordings… as those records were subpoenaed, because you can’t keep any kind of private records of you conducting government business….

    That is such a gross oversimplification of why Nixon was impeached I don't even know where to start.

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