▲ 1123 ▼ Donald emails (sh.itjust.works) submitted 2 years ago* by ModerateImprovement@sh.itjust.works to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works 68 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://mstdn.social/@Strandjunker/112961684584733473
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (4 children) Isn't Wikileaks Russian? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ramble81@lemm.ee 33 points 2 years ago So they were already cc’d on them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ealoe@ani.social 4 points 2 years ago Yes and no; technically they're an independent entity but they've been used as useful idiots by Russian intelligence so many times at this point they're effectively Russian permalink fedilink source parent [–] SLfgb@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago nope. permalink fedilink source parent [+] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip -8 points 2 years ago (3 children) No, the whole "Wikileaks is a Russian asset" story is a farce used to unjustly discredit them, since they've published some extremely damning documents. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Bananigans@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) It might be because RT gave Assange his talk show on state run tv, RT claimed WikiLeaks as a partner, Assange dumped the 2016 emails after Trump's "Russia if your listening" statement, or because after Assange claimed the hacker that provided WikiLeaks with those 2016 emails wasn't Russian, he was. If you step back and squint, it kind of looks like he was working with Russia because of all the work with Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SLfgb@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago* Assange's show was produced independently and then licensed to RT, among other broadcasters. The show is produced by Quick Roll Productions, which was established by Julian Assange with the assistance of Dartmouth Films. It is distributed by Journeyman Pictures[18] and broadcast internationally in English, Arabic, and Spanish by RT and Italian newspaper L'espresso, who both make the program available online.[1][19][20] The theme for the show was composed by M.I.A.[3][4] permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, that’s not entirely true. Yeah, there has been a long history of US based organizations, particularly governmental ones, trying to stop Wikileaks, capture Snowden, and generally just punish whistleblowers so brutally is deters anyone else from doing it. But that doesn’t mean that as the years went on, the mission of Wikileaks changed as they seemed to adopt a particular goal that wasn’t just “shining a light on corruption.” So it’s not as simple as “it’s a Russian asset” and it’s not as simple as “they’re being smeared for spilling govt secrets.” It’s a mixture of the two, but not only, and not entirely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SLfgb@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're right, it does not mean the mission of WikiLeaks changed. It clearly hasn't. They still have never had to retract a single document or story. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) But weren’t some of the Clinton email leaks proven to be planted? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SLfgb@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) The Clinton emails were first released by the State Department under FOIA. (WikiLeaks were first to publish the different archives of the Podesta email leak and the DNC email leak.) Both WL and the Wall Street Journal each made the Clinton emails into a searchable database. WikiLeaks has never had to retract a single document or story. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago Ah, I was confusing the fact that the right wing internet trolls planted faked emails among the Wikileaks dump. Misremembered permalink fedilink source parent [–] SLfgb@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago Totally. It is a complete farce. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 33 points 2 years ago So they were already cc’d on them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ealoe@ani.social 4 points 2 years ago Yes and no; technically they're an independent entity but they've been used as useful idiots by Russian intelligence so many times at this point they're effectively Russian permalink fedilink source parent
[+] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip -8 points 2 years ago (3 children) No, the whole "Wikileaks is a Russian asset" story is a farce used to unjustly discredit them, since they've published some extremely damning documents. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Bananigans@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) It might be because RT gave Assange his talk show on state run tv, RT claimed WikiLeaks as a partner, Assange dumped the 2016 emails after Trump's "Russia if your listening" statement, or because after Assange claimed the hacker that provided WikiLeaks with those 2016 emails wasn't Russian, he was. If you step back and squint, it kind of looks like he was working with Russia because of all the work with Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SLfgb@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago* Assange's show was produced independently and then licensed to RT, among other broadcasters. The show is produced by Quick Roll Productions, which was established by Julian Assange with the assistance of Dartmouth Films. It is distributed by Journeyman Pictures[18] and broadcast internationally in English, Arabic, and Spanish by RT and Italian newspaper L'espresso, who both make the program available online.[1][19][20] The theme for the show was composed by M.I.A.[3][4] permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, that’s not entirely true. Yeah, there has been a long history of US based organizations, particularly governmental ones, trying to stop Wikileaks, capture Snowden, and generally just punish whistleblowers so brutally is deters anyone else from doing it. But that doesn’t mean that as the years went on, the mission of Wikileaks changed as they seemed to adopt a particular goal that wasn’t just “shining a light on corruption.” So it’s not as simple as “it’s a Russian asset” and it’s not as simple as “they’re being smeared for spilling govt secrets.” It’s a mixture of the two, but not only, and not entirely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SLfgb@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're right, it does not mean the mission of WikiLeaks changed. It clearly hasn't. They still have never had to retract a single document or story. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) But weren’t some of the Clinton email leaks proven to be planted? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SLfgb@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) The Clinton emails were first released by the State Department under FOIA. (WikiLeaks were first to publish the different archives of the Podesta email leak and the DNC email leak.) Both WL and the Wall Street Journal each made the Clinton emails into a searchable database. WikiLeaks has never had to retract a single document or story. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago Ah, I was confusing the fact that the right wing internet trolls planted faked emails among the Wikileaks dump. Misremembered permalink fedilink source parent [–] SLfgb@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago Totally. It is a complete farce. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bananigans@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) It might be because RT gave Assange his talk show on state run tv, RT claimed WikiLeaks as a partner, Assange dumped the 2016 emails after Trump's "Russia if your listening" statement, or because after Assange claimed the hacker that provided WikiLeaks with those 2016 emails wasn't Russian, he was. If you step back and squint, it kind of looks like he was working with Russia because of all the work with Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SLfgb@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago* Assange's show was produced independently and then licensed to RT, among other broadcasters. The show is produced by Quick Roll Productions, which was established by Julian Assange with the assistance of Dartmouth Films. It is distributed by Journeyman Pictures[18] and broadcast internationally in English, Arabic, and Spanish by RT and Italian newspaper L'espresso, who both make the program available online.[1][19][20] The theme for the show was composed by M.I.A.[3][4] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SLfgb@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago* Assange's show was produced independently and then licensed to RT, among other broadcasters. The show is produced by Quick Roll Productions, which was established by Julian Assange with the assistance of Dartmouth Films. It is distributed by Journeyman Pictures[18] and broadcast internationally in English, Arabic, and Spanish by RT and Italian newspaper L'espresso, who both make the program available online.[1][19][20] The theme for the show was composed by M.I.A.[3][4] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, that’s not entirely true. Yeah, there has been a long history of US based organizations, particularly governmental ones, trying to stop Wikileaks, capture Snowden, and generally just punish whistleblowers so brutally is deters anyone else from doing it. But that doesn’t mean that as the years went on, the mission of Wikileaks changed as they seemed to adopt a particular goal that wasn’t just “shining a light on corruption.” So it’s not as simple as “it’s a Russian asset” and it’s not as simple as “they’re being smeared for spilling govt secrets.” It’s a mixture of the two, but not only, and not entirely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SLfgb@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're right, it does not mean the mission of WikiLeaks changed. It clearly hasn't. They still have never had to retract a single document or story. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) But weren’t some of the Clinton email leaks proven to be planted? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SLfgb@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) The Clinton emails were first released by the State Department under FOIA. (WikiLeaks were first to publish the different archives of the Podesta email leak and the DNC email leak.) Both WL and the Wall Street Journal each made the Clinton emails into a searchable database. WikiLeaks has never had to retract a single document or story. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago Ah, I was confusing the fact that the right wing internet trolls planted faked emails among the Wikileaks dump. Misremembered permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SLfgb@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You're right, it does not mean the mission of WikiLeaks changed. It clearly hasn't. They still have never had to retract a single document or story. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) But weren’t some of the Clinton email leaks proven to be planted? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SLfgb@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) The Clinton emails were first released by the State Department under FOIA. (WikiLeaks were first to publish the different archives of the Podesta email leak and the DNC email leak.) Both WL and the Wall Street Journal each made the Clinton emails into a searchable database. WikiLeaks has never had to retract a single document or story. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago Ah, I was confusing the fact that the right wing internet trolls planted faked emails among the Wikileaks dump. Misremembered permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) But weren’t some of the Clinton email leaks proven to be planted? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SLfgb@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) The Clinton emails were first released by the State Department under FOIA. (WikiLeaks were first to publish the different archives of the Podesta email leak and the DNC email leak.) Both WL and the Wall Street Journal each made the Clinton emails into a searchable database. WikiLeaks has never had to retract a single document or story. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago Ah, I was confusing the fact that the right wing internet trolls planted faked emails among the Wikileaks dump. Misremembered permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SLfgb@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) The Clinton emails were first released by the State Department under FOIA. (WikiLeaks were first to publish the different archives of the Podesta email leak and the DNC email leak.) Both WL and the Wall Street Journal each made the Clinton emails into a searchable database. WikiLeaks has never had to retract a single document or story. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago Ah, I was confusing the fact that the right wing internet trolls planted faked emails among the Wikileaks dump. Misremembered permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago Ah, I was confusing the fact that the right wing internet trolls planted faked emails among the Wikileaks dump. Misremembered permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SLfgb@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago Totally. It is a complete farce. permalink fedilink source parent
