▲ 379 ▼ Earth systems critical to all life are on the verge of total collapse (www.earth.com) submitted 2 years ago by homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 79 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/12214870
[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Please just do it already permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) I know right? The faster shit gets really really bad, the faster people will (hopefully) start building homemade guillotines. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago Personally I'd prefer any way that doesn't shovel the less abled and less privileged into the Accelerationism Machine as fuel. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) We have to hope things get better, because no matter how bad things get, they can always get worse. People will see things getting worse as evidence that it hasn't gotten worse enough. The idea that there is some point where it can get bad enough to spur positive change is false. The positive change that has happened in society originates from people wanting things to get better. We have to convince people to want things to get better, by showing them it can be better. Too many people are worried about losing the little they have. People have to see we can all be living more complete lives without harming the planet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) We don't have any evidence to suggest it will get better. I'm also not really sure what you mean by "more complete lives." That's gotta be subjective, right? I don't think I'm an accelerationist though, I think I'm just against human life period. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) We don’t have any evidence to suggest it will get better. We know how to make things better. We need to get off fossil fuels and capitalism. Hoping it will get worse won't work. It will just get worse. People have made things better before. We are living in the success of optimistic activists who believed they could make the world a better place. We need to do the same. I’m also not really sure what you mean by “more complete lives.” How about making more money. Eating food and breathing air that doesn't kill us. Working for ourselves and not billionaires. Having third spaces where people can be a part of a community, instead of being isolated. I’m just against human life period. This is literally the root of the flawed ideologies of our time. I implore you to reconsider. We are all in this together. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It all sounds great for sure, and I'd love it. But I just don't think it's realistic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Not with that attitude. We know how to implement socialism while maintaining a market economy and how to improve our democracy to achieve majority rule. All of it is logistically doable and well understood. What we need is the political will to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Yeah that's the part I don't think is realistic, but who knows, it could happen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) I know right? The faster shit gets really really bad, the faster people will (hopefully) start building homemade guillotines. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago Personally I'd prefer any way that doesn't shovel the less abled and less privileged into the Accelerationism Machine as fuel. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) We have to hope things get better, because no matter how bad things get, they can always get worse. People will see things getting worse as evidence that it hasn't gotten worse enough. The idea that there is some point where it can get bad enough to spur positive change is false. The positive change that has happened in society originates from people wanting things to get better. We have to convince people to want things to get better, by showing them it can be better. Too many people are worried about losing the little they have. People have to see we can all be living more complete lives without harming the planet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) We don't have any evidence to suggest it will get better. I'm also not really sure what you mean by "more complete lives." That's gotta be subjective, right? I don't think I'm an accelerationist though, I think I'm just against human life period. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) We don’t have any evidence to suggest it will get better. We know how to make things better. We need to get off fossil fuels and capitalism. Hoping it will get worse won't work. It will just get worse. People have made things better before. We are living in the success of optimistic activists who believed they could make the world a better place. We need to do the same. I’m also not really sure what you mean by “more complete lives.” How about making more money. Eating food and breathing air that doesn't kill us. Working for ourselves and not billionaires. Having third spaces where people can be a part of a community, instead of being isolated. I’m just against human life period. This is literally the root of the flawed ideologies of our time. I implore you to reconsider. We are all in this together. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It all sounds great for sure, and I'd love it. But I just don't think it's realistic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Not with that attitude. We know how to implement socialism while maintaining a market economy and how to improve our democracy to achieve majority rule. All of it is logistically doable and well understood. What we need is the political will to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Yeah that's the part I don't think is realistic, but who knows, it could happen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago Personally I'd prefer any way that doesn't shovel the less abled and less privileged into the Accelerationism Machine as fuel. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) We have to hope things get better, because no matter how bad things get, they can always get worse. People will see things getting worse as evidence that it hasn't gotten worse enough. The idea that there is some point where it can get bad enough to spur positive change is false. The positive change that has happened in society originates from people wanting things to get better. We have to convince people to want things to get better, by showing them it can be better. Too many people are worried about losing the little they have. People have to see we can all be living more complete lives without harming the planet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) We don't have any evidence to suggest it will get better. I'm also not really sure what you mean by "more complete lives." That's gotta be subjective, right? I don't think I'm an accelerationist though, I think I'm just against human life period. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) We don’t have any evidence to suggest it will get better. We know how to make things better. We need to get off fossil fuels and capitalism. Hoping it will get worse won't work. It will just get worse. People have made things better before. We are living in the success of optimistic activists who believed they could make the world a better place. We need to do the same. I’m also not really sure what you mean by “more complete lives.” How about making more money. Eating food and breathing air that doesn't kill us. Working for ourselves and not billionaires. Having third spaces where people can be a part of a community, instead of being isolated. I’m just against human life period. This is literally the root of the flawed ideologies of our time. I implore you to reconsider. We are all in this together. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It all sounds great for sure, and I'd love it. But I just don't think it's realistic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Not with that attitude. We know how to implement socialism while maintaining a market economy and how to improve our democracy to achieve majority rule. All of it is logistically doable and well understood. What we need is the political will to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Yeah that's the part I don't think is realistic, but who knows, it could happen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) We don't have any evidence to suggest it will get better. I'm also not really sure what you mean by "more complete lives." That's gotta be subjective, right? I don't think I'm an accelerationist though, I think I'm just against human life period. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) We don’t have any evidence to suggest it will get better. We know how to make things better. We need to get off fossil fuels and capitalism. Hoping it will get worse won't work. It will just get worse. People have made things better before. We are living in the success of optimistic activists who believed they could make the world a better place. We need to do the same. I’m also not really sure what you mean by “more complete lives.” How about making more money. Eating food and breathing air that doesn't kill us. Working for ourselves and not billionaires. Having third spaces where people can be a part of a community, instead of being isolated. I’m just against human life period. This is literally the root of the flawed ideologies of our time. I implore you to reconsider. We are all in this together. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It all sounds great for sure, and I'd love it. But I just don't think it's realistic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Not with that attitude. We know how to implement socialism while maintaining a market economy and how to improve our democracy to achieve majority rule. All of it is logistically doable and well understood. What we need is the political will to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Yeah that's the part I don't think is realistic, but who knows, it could happen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) We don’t have any evidence to suggest it will get better. We know how to make things better. We need to get off fossil fuels and capitalism. Hoping it will get worse won't work. It will just get worse. People have made things better before. We are living in the success of optimistic activists who believed they could make the world a better place. We need to do the same. I’m also not really sure what you mean by “more complete lives.” How about making more money. Eating food and breathing air that doesn't kill us. Working for ourselves and not billionaires. Having third spaces where people can be a part of a community, instead of being isolated. I’m just against human life period. This is literally the root of the flawed ideologies of our time. I implore you to reconsider. We are all in this together. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It all sounds great for sure, and I'd love it. But I just don't think it's realistic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Not with that attitude. We know how to implement socialism while maintaining a market economy and how to improve our democracy to achieve majority rule. All of it is logistically doable and well understood. What we need is the political will to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Yeah that's the part I don't think is realistic, but who knows, it could happen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It all sounds great for sure, and I'd love it. But I just don't think it's realistic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Not with that attitude. We know how to implement socialism while maintaining a market economy and how to improve our democracy to achieve majority rule. All of it is logistically doable and well understood. What we need is the political will to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Yeah that's the part I don't think is realistic, but who knows, it could happen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Not with that attitude. We know how to implement socialism while maintaining a market economy and how to improve our democracy to achieve majority rule. All of it is logistically doable and well understood. What we need is the political will to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Yeah that's the part I don't think is realistic, but who knows, it could happen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago Yeah that's the part I don't think is realistic, but who knows, it could happen. permalink fedilink source parent