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When you finally get to watch Discovery and realize it isn't actually an enormous pile of mugato dung (i.giphy.com)
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[+] 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)
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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Ds9: where's the exploring? They're on a space station!
    Voyager: where are all the aliens we know about?
    Enterprise: it's been a long road.

    With time, they all got their space. (This is me agreeing)

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Is there anyone who dislikes Lower Decks? I'd say LD is more equal than the others.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Ok so literally not what you're after, because I do like LD.

    However, sometimes it feels a bit too Rick and Mortyish for my taste. Mariner could shout "Wubalubadubdub haha, amarite guys??" and it would seem completely in character both with her and the show.

    I guess it makes a lot of sense considering they poached some talent from the R&M team, and LD was greenlit after executives saw how popular R&M was (the same is true for multiple other sci-fi comedy cartoons).

    I still like it, but I can't sit and watch like 4 episodes in one sitting like I could with DS9 or SNW.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    I’ve never watched Rick And Morty, but I find the constant reference humour to be very grating. I’ve come to appreciate the characters but also can’t get excited about it like most of the other series. I’d definitely rate it in the bottom half of Trek shows.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Hello, I am the unicorn. I don't resent LD per se, but I hate "adult cartoons" aka crude pseudo intellectual, cynical humor. I understand other people like it, but for me it is just not real trek, both tonally and the cartoon medium itself (TAS can get fucked as well).

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I really dislike lower decks. I find it annoying and lacking in ideas. I feel exactly the same about Final Space the previous show by the creator.

    That said I don't think it's bad or not very "Star Trek". It just completely grates on me.

    To contrast I really like TOS, TNG, and DS9. I thought VGR and ENT felt "Star Trek" but badly written. DSC and PIC are badly written and don't feel "Star Trek" to me. I've herd the final PIC season is pretty good so I'll give it a shot at some point.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    I couldn't make it through the first episode because it's direly inane. Like, it's aggressively vapid and everything I hear about it reinforces that opinion. I mostly just avoid that stuff so instead of being there making a show of how much I hate that show, I'm just... not? I think that's maybe why you think we're unicorns: could be you just don't see us because we don't hang out around the thing you expect to see us disliking. Kinda makes sense from another perspective, I think.

    That or the rest all got banned or bullied out or something for having unapproved feelings regarding series deemed important. Idunno. Kinda tired of it being a religious issue.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    All Trek is equal.

    Yo them's fighting words Stamets. Obviously Year of Hell is above all the rest.

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  • [+] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm just happy to have new Trek shows after like 15 years lol and now there's SO many

    Plus, DIS really got into the groove after the first 2 seasons, which is a common problem IMO for many Trek series from TNG to ENT

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Maybe it's simply that the format changes a lot.

    TNG is much different from TOS and some people don't like that style.

    I can honestly say that I find Discovery extremely frantic, boring and way too contemporary, but that's just my expectation towards Trek. Others have different tastes.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'd argue that there are different categories of Trek-feel. TOS is different from TNG and DS9, and the "new Treks" are different from those TNG/DS9.

    The new Treks are all much more modern and contemporary. The production styles are completely different, the underlying topics are much closer to reality. It is a completely different category of show, that just happens to take place in the same universe.

    Whether that's a good thing or not, is up to debate. But arguing that "this is not my Trek anymore" is invalid, is just wrong.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    When The Last Jedi came out I went to see it with some friends who were big Star Wars fans. I thought it was fun, they hated all of it. I said to them "I guess I am not big enough of a Star Wars fan to hate Star Wars that much." The same is true for almost everything.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    I've been a Star Wars fan for almost three decades and I think almost all Disney Star Wars is "fine" at worst. Even most of the things I didn't like had some sort of redeeming qualities, or I could recognize that I wasn't the target audience. The only thing I truly hated was Rise of the Skywalker, which is quite possibly my least favourite Star Wars thing ever.

    I realize this puts me in the very small minority among Star Wars fans, and it's the reason I tend to avoid fan discussions these days - the relentless negativity is exhausting and leaves little room for discussing the things about Disney Star Wars I find good and/or interesting.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    Nah.

    Lower Decks and SNW is generally well liked even though it's new and not what people are used to (LD is a wacky cartoon comedy).

    Both TNG and DS9 were bad shows in the beginning (DS9 could be described as ok-ish, but it ran concurrently to TNG in its prime, so looked worse in comparison). Fans didn't dislike them because they were new and then got use to them, they disliked them because they started out bad and then liked them because they got better. VOY and Enterprise are generally considered bad to highly flawed (ENT 3rd season being the exception because, again, it was good).

    There are PLENTY of reasons not to like Discovery. You enjoyed it? Great, have fun. No need to dismiss people not liking it because it's new or whatever.

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