▲ 733 ▼ I'm with McCoy here (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago* by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world [M] to c/tenforward@lemmy.world 258 comments fedilink hide all child comments Sorry about that ridiculous watermark.
[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (2 children) And they treat the one on the planet like he's a copy when he'd logically be the original with the one on the Enterprise being the duplicate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (2 children) They are both copies. They explain that the guy operating the transporter was losing him, so he used a second beam to try to compensate. On beam made it through, the other bounced off the st uff in the atmosphere that was causing the problem and rematerialized him on the planet. I'm pretty sure this explanation was in the episode in order to establish that both Rikers are equally real. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Except that that explanation means Tom was made with the original Riker materials and Will was made from matter reserves on the ship using the original Riker as a template. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Ship of Theseus permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* No, USS Enterprise NCC 1701-D. But I can see why that would be confusing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Both beams were pulling in genuine Will Riker. Presumably they are both a mix of the original material and additional material formed by the transporter. That or the transporter is violating the law of conservation of energy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 1 point 9 months ago* I imagine a decent amount of Riker is spread across the atmosphere any time he beams through a storm cloud. I assume Enterprise D has spare Riker bits stores somewhere to fill in any gaps. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think that makes both Rikers equally fake, not real. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Equally fake and equally real are the same thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Equally fake and equally real are equal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Beg to differ. The Queen gives birth to twin boys. It's a stormy night and the midwife isn't sure which is older. They are equally the 'real' king. Two counterfeit dollar bills are equally fake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If one counterfeit dollar buys a soda, does it matter who's king? permalink fedilink source parent [–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* This is a semantics argument. The way the person you're talking to means it, two things being equally fake also means that they're equally real, because they are both just as real as the other (that is, not). permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago This one Trinitys permalink fedilink source parent [–] eldavi@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (1 child) i always felt that it was wrong that they gave the riker that got out a promotion; but wouldn't do the same thing for the riker that didn't get out even though he was the one who paid the price for his heroism while the other riker simply got lucky and both did the same thing that earned that promotion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kaitco@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Well shoot! I’d never thought about that and now I’m mad! Give Tom Riker his promotion! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (2 children) They are both copies. They explain that the guy operating the transporter was losing him, so he used a second beam to try to compensate. On beam made it through, the other bounced off the st uff in the atmosphere that was causing the problem and rematerialized him on the planet. I'm pretty sure this explanation was in the episode in order to establish that both Rikers are equally real. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Except that that explanation means Tom was made with the original Riker materials and Will was made from matter reserves on the ship using the original Riker as a template. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Ship of Theseus permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* No, USS Enterprise NCC 1701-D. But I can see why that would be confusing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Both beams were pulling in genuine Will Riker. Presumably they are both a mix of the original material and additional material formed by the transporter. That or the transporter is violating the law of conservation of energy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 1 point 9 months ago* I imagine a decent amount of Riker is spread across the atmosphere any time he beams through a storm cloud. I assume Enterprise D has spare Riker bits stores somewhere to fill in any gaps. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think that makes both Rikers equally fake, not real. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Equally fake and equally real are the same thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Equally fake and equally real are equal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Beg to differ. The Queen gives birth to twin boys. It's a stormy night and the midwife isn't sure which is older. They are equally the 'real' king. Two counterfeit dollar bills are equally fake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If one counterfeit dollar buys a soda, does it matter who's king? permalink fedilink source parent [–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* This is a semantics argument. The way the person you're talking to means it, two things being equally fake also means that they're equally real, because they are both just as real as the other (that is, not). permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago This one Trinitys permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Except that that explanation means Tom was made with the original Riker materials and Will was made from matter reserves on the ship using the original Riker as a template. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Ship of Theseus permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* No, USS Enterprise NCC 1701-D. But I can see why that would be confusing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Both beams were pulling in genuine Will Riker. Presumably they are both a mix of the original material and additional material formed by the transporter. That or the transporter is violating the law of conservation of energy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 1 point 9 months ago* I imagine a decent amount of Riker is spread across the atmosphere any time he beams through a storm cloud. I assume Enterprise D has spare Riker bits stores somewhere to fill in any gaps. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Ship of Theseus permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* No, USS Enterprise NCC 1701-D. But I can see why that would be confusing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* No, USS Enterprise NCC 1701-D. But I can see why that would be confusing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Both beams were pulling in genuine Will Riker. Presumably they are both a mix of the original material and additional material formed by the transporter. That or the transporter is violating the law of conservation of energy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 1 point 9 months ago* I imagine a decent amount of Riker is spread across the atmosphere any time he beams through a storm cloud. I assume Enterprise D has spare Riker bits stores somewhere to fill in any gaps. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 1 point 9 months ago* I imagine a decent amount of Riker is spread across the atmosphere any time he beams through a storm cloud. I assume Enterprise D has spare Riker bits stores somewhere to fill in any gaps. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think that makes both Rikers equally fake, not real. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Equally fake and equally real are the same thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Equally fake and equally real are equal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Beg to differ. The Queen gives birth to twin boys. It's a stormy night and the midwife isn't sure which is older. They are equally the 'real' king. Two counterfeit dollar bills are equally fake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If one counterfeit dollar buys a soda, does it matter who's king? permalink fedilink source parent [–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* This is a semantics argument. The way the person you're talking to means it, two things being equally fake also means that they're equally real, because they are both just as real as the other (that is, not). permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago This one Trinitys permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Equally fake and equally real are the same thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Equally fake and equally real are equal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Beg to differ. The Queen gives birth to twin boys. It's a stormy night and the midwife isn't sure which is older. They are equally the 'real' king. Two counterfeit dollar bills are equally fake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If one counterfeit dollar buys a soda, does it matter who's king? permalink fedilink source parent [–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* This is a semantics argument. The way the person you're talking to means it, two things being equally fake also means that they're equally real, because they are both just as real as the other (that is, not). permalink fedilink source parent [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago This one Trinitys permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Equally fake and equally real are equal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Beg to differ. The Queen gives birth to twin boys. It's a stormy night and the midwife isn't sure which is older. They are equally the 'real' king. Two counterfeit dollar bills are equally fake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If one counterfeit dollar buys a soda, does it matter who's king? permalink fedilink source parent [–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* This is a semantics argument. The way the person you're talking to means it, two things being equally fake also means that they're equally real, because they are both just as real as the other (that is, not). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Beg to differ. The Queen gives birth to twin boys. It's a stormy night and the midwife isn't sure which is older. They are equally the 'real' king. Two counterfeit dollar bills are equally fake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If one counterfeit dollar buys a soda, does it matter who's king? permalink fedilink source parent [–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* This is a semantics argument. The way the person you're talking to means it, two things being equally fake also means that they're equally real, because they are both just as real as the other (that is, not). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If one counterfeit dollar buys a soda, does it matter who's king? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* This is a semantics argument. The way the person you're talking to means it, two things being equally fake also means that they're equally real, because they are both just as real as the other (that is, not). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago This one Trinitys permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eldavi@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (1 child) i always felt that it was wrong that they gave the riker that got out a promotion; but wouldn't do the same thing for the riker that didn't get out even though he was the one who paid the price for his heroism while the other riker simply got lucky and both did the same thing that earned that promotion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kaitco@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Well shoot! I’d never thought about that and now I’m mad! Give Tom Riker his promotion! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago Well shoot! I’d never thought about that and now I’m mad! Give Tom Riker his promotion! permalink fedilink source parent
