▲ 63 ▼ Is it possible to safely torrent without a VPN? (lemmy.blahaj.zone) submitted 2 years ago by nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 comments fedilink hide all child comments Funds are limited at the moment and i'd rather not have a monthly subscription to worry about. i'm not in the US, if that changes anything
[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) Without VPN or Usenet subscription it's going to be difficult and/or illegal. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) difficult and/or illegal. I don't think using a VPN gets you out of the illegal part, lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago Gets you out of the consequences part though, which is good enough. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Since most VPNs no longer have port mapping it's a pure download which would make it technically legal e.g. in Germany. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can seed without port forwarding permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Interesting, wasn't aware. It remains illegal in Germany then, as long as you seed. Notice in Germany you will receive a nastygram in any case as long as you've been identified as a member in a swarm, even if you do not seed. It would be interesting if someone would contest that, though you will likely lose since technical details don't matter in most courts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone [S] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) i mean its always illegal no? you just dont get caught as easily with a VPN permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) No port mapping, no upload, so technically legal where only sharing is penalized. IANAL. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CutestFox@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago You forgot to say TILA permalink fedilink source parent
[–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) difficult and/or illegal. I don't think using a VPN gets you out of the illegal part, lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago Gets you out of the consequences part though, which is good enough. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Since most VPNs no longer have port mapping it's a pure download which would make it technically legal e.g. in Germany. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can seed without port forwarding permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Interesting, wasn't aware. It remains illegal in Germany then, as long as you seed. Notice in Germany you will receive a nastygram in any case as long as you've been identified as a member in a swarm, even if you do not seed. It would be interesting if someone would contest that, though you will likely lose since technical details don't matter in most courts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago Gets you out of the consequences part though, which is good enough. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Since most VPNs no longer have port mapping it's a pure download which would make it technically legal e.g. in Germany. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can seed without port forwarding permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Interesting, wasn't aware. It remains illegal in Germany then, as long as you seed. Notice in Germany you will receive a nastygram in any case as long as you've been identified as a member in a swarm, even if you do not seed. It would be interesting if someone would contest that, though you will likely lose since technical details don't matter in most courts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can seed without port forwarding permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Interesting, wasn't aware. It remains illegal in Germany then, as long as you seed. Notice in Germany you will receive a nastygram in any case as long as you've been identified as a member in a swarm, even if you do not seed. It would be interesting if someone would contest that, though you will likely lose since technical details don't matter in most courts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Interesting, wasn't aware. It remains illegal in Germany then, as long as you seed. Notice in Germany you will receive a nastygram in any case as long as you've been identified as a member in a swarm, even if you do not seed. It would be interesting if someone would contest that, though you will likely lose since technical details don't matter in most courts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone [S] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) i mean its always illegal no? you just dont get caught as easily with a VPN permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) No port mapping, no upload, so technically legal where only sharing is penalized. IANAL. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CutestFox@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago You forgot to say TILA permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) No port mapping, no upload, so technically legal where only sharing is penalized. IANAL. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CutestFox@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago You forgot to say TILA permalink fedilink source parent