▲ 208 ▼ Sup is a New Messaging App by the Creator of Pixelfed (wedistribute.org) submitted 2 years ago by deadsuperhero@lemmy.ml [M] to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml 86 comments fedilink hide all child comments A new messaging app is in development, and the project is described as "an open source WhatsApp for the Fediverse."
[–] HidingCat@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (4 children) What's wrong with Signal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 21 points 2 years ago (2 children) Mobile-first, requires phone number, proprietary server-side, google play market. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Desktop app works fine tbh. Phone numbers required for now. Usernames potentially on the horizon per sms removal update. Server side code is open source and available at Signal Server Github. Also available on iOS. Android has an apk download so you dont need Google Play. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 7 points 2 years ago Seems you edited your comment to add new points. Lemmy doesn't notify users about changes to comments/posts they replied to, unfortunately. Phone numbers required for now. Usernames potentially on the horizon per sms removal update. Good to know. I prefer to never use my phone number for sign ups. Server side code is open source and available at Signal Server Github. They seem to put a lot of effort to centralize their app though - you can't setup your own server and talk to other signal users. Android has an apk download so you dont need Google Play. Yes, but you need to figure out how to verify signature keys on android + manual updates, it's just inconvinent if you compare it to F-Droid Signal devs so dislike for no good reason. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You still need to install a mobile app first. On XMPP I can create an account even if I don't own a smartphone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Does XMPP allow e2ee group video calls? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago Yes, but its early days and only few clients support it. You can try it with Dino. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 2 points 2 years ago I dunno, never used video calls outside of college (and hell I hate that). I heard Jitsi can do it though, again never tried myself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HidingCat@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't see the problem with that, it's a phone messenger first. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, I'm desktop-first kind of person, so it's a downside for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HidingCat@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago Sure, definitely use what works for you. I do like it as a phone messenger that happens to have a functional desktop client (Telegram and surprisingly, Whatsapp do have better desktop clients). permalink fedilink source parent [–] deadsuperhero@lemmy.ml [S] 15 points 2 years ago Signal is great, but the core developer is inherently against federation with his own product. It's just one giant centralized service. permalink fedilink source parent [–] blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago It feels like I'm doing shady backdoor deals. It's only for the people I conspire with and really close friends... In which we just end up using regular old sms anyway lol. permalink fedilink source parent [–] poop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago* Signal is too darn secure. Much better to have one dude who probably knows how to use a crypto library build the whole thing over again with a coat of ActivityPub on top permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 21 points 2 years ago (2 children) Mobile-first, requires phone number, proprietary server-side, google play market. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Desktop app works fine tbh. Phone numbers required for now. Usernames potentially on the horizon per sms removal update. Server side code is open source and available at Signal Server Github. Also available on iOS. Android has an apk download so you dont need Google Play. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 7 points 2 years ago Seems you edited your comment to add new points. Lemmy doesn't notify users about changes to comments/posts they replied to, unfortunately. Phone numbers required for now. Usernames potentially on the horizon per sms removal update. Good to know. I prefer to never use my phone number for sign ups. Server side code is open source and available at Signal Server Github. They seem to put a lot of effort to centralize their app though - you can't setup your own server and talk to other signal users. Android has an apk download so you dont need Google Play. Yes, but you need to figure out how to verify signature keys on android + manual updates, it's just inconvinent if you compare it to F-Droid Signal devs so dislike for no good reason. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You still need to install a mobile app first. On XMPP I can create an account even if I don't own a smartphone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Does XMPP allow e2ee group video calls? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago Yes, but its early days and only few clients support it. You can try it with Dino. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 2 points 2 years ago I dunno, never used video calls outside of college (and hell I hate that). I heard Jitsi can do it though, again never tried myself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HidingCat@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't see the problem with that, it's a phone messenger first. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, I'm desktop-first kind of person, so it's a downside for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HidingCat@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago Sure, definitely use what works for you. I do like it as a phone messenger that happens to have a functional desktop client (Telegram and surprisingly, Whatsapp do have better desktop clients). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Desktop app works fine tbh. Phone numbers required for now. Usernames potentially on the horizon per sms removal update. Server side code is open source and available at Signal Server Github. Also available on iOS. Android has an apk download so you dont need Google Play. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 7 points 2 years ago Seems you edited your comment to add new points. Lemmy doesn't notify users about changes to comments/posts they replied to, unfortunately. Phone numbers required for now. Usernames potentially on the horizon per sms removal update. Good to know. I prefer to never use my phone number for sign ups. Server side code is open source and available at Signal Server Github. They seem to put a lot of effort to centralize their app though - you can't setup your own server and talk to other signal users. Android has an apk download so you dont need Google Play. Yes, but you need to figure out how to verify signature keys on android + manual updates, it's just inconvinent if you compare it to F-Droid Signal devs so dislike for no good reason. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You still need to install a mobile app first. On XMPP I can create an account even if I don't own a smartphone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Does XMPP allow e2ee group video calls? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago Yes, but its early days and only few clients support it. You can try it with Dino. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 2 points 2 years ago I dunno, never used video calls outside of college (and hell I hate that). I heard Jitsi can do it though, again never tried myself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 7 points 2 years ago Seems you edited your comment to add new points. Lemmy doesn't notify users about changes to comments/posts they replied to, unfortunately. Phone numbers required for now. Usernames potentially on the horizon per sms removal update. Good to know. I prefer to never use my phone number for sign ups. Server side code is open source and available at Signal Server Github. They seem to put a lot of effort to centralize their app though - you can't setup your own server and talk to other signal users. Android has an apk download so you dont need Google Play. Yes, but you need to figure out how to verify signature keys on android + manual updates, it's just inconvinent if you compare it to F-Droid Signal devs so dislike for no good reason. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You still need to install a mobile app first. On XMPP I can create an account even if I don't own a smartphone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Does XMPP allow e2ee group video calls? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago Yes, but its early days and only few clients support it. You can try it with Dino. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 2 points 2 years ago I dunno, never used video calls outside of college (and hell I hate that). I heard Jitsi can do it though, again never tried myself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Does XMPP allow e2ee group video calls? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago Yes, but its early days and only few clients support it. You can try it with Dino. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 2 points 2 years ago I dunno, never used video calls outside of college (and hell I hate that). I heard Jitsi can do it though, again never tried myself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago Yes, but its early days and only few clients support it. You can try it with Dino. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 2 points 2 years ago I dunno, never used video calls outside of college (and hell I hate that). I heard Jitsi can do it though, again never tried myself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HidingCat@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't see the problem with that, it's a phone messenger first. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, I'm desktop-first kind of person, so it's a downside for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HidingCat@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago Sure, definitely use what works for you. I do like it as a phone messenger that happens to have a functional desktop client (Telegram and surprisingly, Whatsapp do have better desktop clients). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lucia@eviltoast.org 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, I'm desktop-first kind of person, so it's a downside for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HidingCat@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago Sure, definitely use what works for you. I do like it as a phone messenger that happens to have a functional desktop client (Telegram and surprisingly, Whatsapp do have better desktop clients). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HidingCat@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago Sure, definitely use what works for you. I do like it as a phone messenger that happens to have a functional desktop client (Telegram and surprisingly, Whatsapp do have better desktop clients). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deadsuperhero@lemmy.ml [S] 15 points 2 years ago Signal is great, but the core developer is inherently against federation with his own product. It's just one giant centralized service. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago It feels like I'm doing shady backdoor deals. It's only for the people I conspire with and really close friends... In which we just end up using regular old sms anyway lol. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] poop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago* Signal is too darn secure. Much better to have one dude who probably knows how to use a crypto library build the whole thing over again with a coat of ActivityPub on top permalink fedilink source parent