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[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 119 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ahh, but in Star Wars, "Light Speed" is exactly as fast as the plot demands. Checkmate, science dorks! permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] essell@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago (1 child) In Starwars they travel through hyperspace, hitting light speed is how you get into it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (5 children) I just assumed light speed was a colloquialism for hyperdrive. At any rate, hyperdrive blows warp out of the water in raw speed. A trip across the galaxy is just a few days. The downside is that you're pretty much limited to already charted safe routes unless you want to test your luck with potential ship-killing hazards that can't be detected before hitting them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (3 children) Y’all noobs don’t even have guild navigators. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) You mean there's no weird creatures created from humans by the effects of FTL? Hold on, I gotchu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DBk2ejb6i8 Warp ten baby, infinite velocity! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] june@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I always thought it was weird that the evolution of humans led to us being giant axolotl‘s. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Reject humanity — return to axolotl? permalink fedilink source parent [–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago I was worried, at the top of this thread, that I was going to have to post this. Thank you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_Faith@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Thrawns people do permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The falcon is a noship. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Furbag@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's both. I think "jumping to lightspeed" is an in-universe misnomer for jumping to Hyperspace. Han Solo misuses the terminology the first time we're introduced to the concept (so does Kenobi, for that matter), but in that same scene he does make a distinction between lightspeed and hyperspace. The ship still needs to accelerate to something very close to light speed to slip into the parallel hyperspace dimension, so it kinda tracks between the two concepts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Star Wars tech manuals say it's not a misnomer. They actually do have to hit lightspeed before entering hyperspace. I assume this is from the same people who said TIE Fighter "wings" are solar panels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Furbag@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Hmm, I suppose you're right. I don't know why sci-fi purists are okay with that explanation when logically nothing can move faster than the speed of light. I've seen more debate over whether a blaster is a laser weapon or a plasma weapon. I guess they had a hard time reconciling the line from Han about how the Falcon does "Point five past light speed". At this point, I've accepted that hyperspace and FTL travel in Star Wars is basically just the wild west and nobody is trying to clarify how any of it actually works, they just want to have cool scenes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) You also can't leave or enter the galaxy Star Wars takes place in, except for a small perforation called Vector Prime. There's a galactic barrier in place that causes hyperspace to just kinda...stop working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] graymess@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's the most interesting bit of Star Wars lore I've heard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago It's Legends, mind you. New canon is more or less the same, but it's a calculation problem rather than a specific gateway out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That makes it consistent with Trek because TOS has a galactic barrier. Maybe they're the same universe. After all StarWars is a galaxy far far away. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago But nothing beats Discovery's mushroom drive (incidentally that's also what the writers had before writing it). permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_Faith@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wanna make your own hyper space jump not using hyper space lanes? Bring one of the talented young ladies of Thrawns species, you will be fine until said young lady is no longer young permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago I love that they cornered themselves in by calling them "skywalkers." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] essell@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago (1 child) In Starwars they travel through hyperspace, hitting light speed is how you get into it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (5 children) I just assumed light speed was a colloquialism for hyperdrive. At any rate, hyperdrive blows warp out of the water in raw speed. A trip across the galaxy is just a few days. The downside is that you're pretty much limited to already charted safe routes unless you want to test your luck with potential ship-killing hazards that can't be detected before hitting them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (3 children) Y’all noobs don’t even have guild navigators. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) You mean there's no weird creatures created from humans by the effects of FTL? Hold on, I gotchu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DBk2ejb6i8 Warp ten baby, infinite velocity! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] june@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I always thought it was weird that the evolution of humans led to us being giant axolotl‘s. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Reject humanity — return to axolotl? permalink fedilink source parent [–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago I was worried, at the top of this thread, that I was going to have to post this. Thank you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_Faith@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Thrawns people do permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The falcon is a noship. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Furbag@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's both. I think "jumping to lightspeed" is an in-universe misnomer for jumping to Hyperspace. Han Solo misuses the terminology the first time we're introduced to the concept (so does Kenobi, for that matter), but in that same scene he does make a distinction between lightspeed and hyperspace. The ship still needs to accelerate to something very close to light speed to slip into the parallel hyperspace dimension, so it kinda tracks between the two concepts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Star Wars tech manuals say it's not a misnomer. They actually do have to hit lightspeed before entering hyperspace. I assume this is from the same people who said TIE Fighter "wings" are solar panels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Furbag@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Hmm, I suppose you're right. I don't know why sci-fi purists are okay with that explanation when logically nothing can move faster than the speed of light. I've seen more debate over whether a blaster is a laser weapon or a plasma weapon. I guess they had a hard time reconciling the line from Han about how the Falcon does "Point five past light speed". At this point, I've accepted that hyperspace and FTL travel in Star Wars is basically just the wild west and nobody is trying to clarify how any of it actually works, they just want to have cool scenes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) You also can't leave or enter the galaxy Star Wars takes place in, except for a small perforation called Vector Prime. There's a galactic barrier in place that causes hyperspace to just kinda...stop working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] graymess@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's the most interesting bit of Star Wars lore I've heard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago It's Legends, mind you. New canon is more or less the same, but it's a calculation problem rather than a specific gateway out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That makes it consistent with Trek because TOS has a galactic barrier. Maybe they're the same universe. After all StarWars is a galaxy far far away. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago But nothing beats Discovery's mushroom drive (incidentally that's also what the writers had before writing it). permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_Faith@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wanna make your own hyper space jump not using hyper space lanes? Bring one of the talented young ladies of Thrawns species, you will be fine until said young lady is no longer young permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago I love that they cornered themselves in by calling them "skywalkers." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (5 children) I just assumed light speed was a colloquialism for hyperdrive. At any rate, hyperdrive blows warp out of the water in raw speed. A trip across the galaxy is just a few days. The downside is that you're pretty much limited to already charted safe routes unless you want to test your luck with potential ship-killing hazards that can't be detected before hitting them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (3 children) Y’all noobs don’t even have guild navigators. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) You mean there's no weird creatures created from humans by the effects of FTL? Hold on, I gotchu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DBk2ejb6i8 Warp ten baby, infinite velocity! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] june@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I always thought it was weird that the evolution of humans led to us being giant axolotl‘s. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Reject humanity — return to axolotl? permalink fedilink source parent [–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago I was worried, at the top of this thread, that I was going to have to post this. Thank you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_Faith@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Thrawns people do permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The falcon is a noship. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Furbag@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's both. I think "jumping to lightspeed" is an in-universe misnomer for jumping to Hyperspace. Han Solo misuses the terminology the first time we're introduced to the concept (so does Kenobi, for that matter), but in that same scene he does make a distinction between lightspeed and hyperspace. The ship still needs to accelerate to something very close to light speed to slip into the parallel hyperspace dimension, so it kinda tracks between the two concepts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Star Wars tech manuals say it's not a misnomer. They actually do have to hit lightspeed before entering hyperspace. I assume this is from the same people who said TIE Fighter "wings" are solar panels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Furbag@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Hmm, I suppose you're right. I don't know why sci-fi purists are okay with that explanation when logically nothing can move faster than the speed of light. I've seen more debate over whether a blaster is a laser weapon or a plasma weapon. I guess they had a hard time reconciling the line from Han about how the Falcon does "Point five past light speed". At this point, I've accepted that hyperspace and FTL travel in Star Wars is basically just the wild west and nobody is trying to clarify how any of it actually works, they just want to have cool scenes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) You also can't leave or enter the galaxy Star Wars takes place in, except for a small perforation called Vector Prime. There's a galactic barrier in place that causes hyperspace to just kinda...stop working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] graymess@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's the most interesting bit of Star Wars lore I've heard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago It's Legends, mind you. New canon is more or less the same, but it's a calculation problem rather than a specific gateway out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That makes it consistent with Trek because TOS has a galactic barrier. Maybe they're the same universe. After all StarWars is a galaxy far far away. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago But nothing beats Discovery's mushroom drive (incidentally that's also what the writers had before writing it). permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_Faith@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wanna make your own hyper space jump not using hyper space lanes? Bring one of the talented young ladies of Thrawns species, you will be fine until said young lady is no longer young permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago I love that they cornered themselves in by calling them "skywalkers." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (3 children) Y’all noobs don’t even have guild navigators. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) You mean there's no weird creatures created from humans by the effects of FTL? Hold on, I gotchu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DBk2ejb6i8 Warp ten baby, infinite velocity! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] june@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I always thought it was weird that the evolution of humans led to us being giant axolotl‘s. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Reject humanity — return to axolotl? permalink fedilink source parent [–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago I was worried, at the top of this thread, that I was going to have to post this. Thank you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_Faith@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Thrawns people do permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The falcon is a noship. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) You mean there's no weird creatures created from humans by the effects of FTL? Hold on, I gotchu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DBk2ejb6i8 Warp ten baby, infinite velocity! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] june@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I always thought it was weird that the evolution of humans led to us being giant axolotl‘s. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Reject humanity — return to axolotl? permalink fedilink source parent [–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago I was worried, at the top of this thread, that I was going to have to post this. Thank you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] june@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I always thought it was weird that the evolution of humans led to us being giant axolotl‘s. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dasus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Reject humanity — return to axolotl? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Reject humanity — return to axolotl? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago I was worried, at the top of this thread, that I was going to have to post this. Thank you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The falcon is a noship. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's both. I think "jumping to lightspeed" is an in-universe misnomer for jumping to Hyperspace. Han Solo misuses the terminology the first time we're introduced to the concept (so does Kenobi, for that matter), but in that same scene he does make a distinction between lightspeed and hyperspace. The ship still needs to accelerate to something very close to light speed to slip into the parallel hyperspace dimension, so it kinda tracks between the two concepts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Star Wars tech manuals say it's not a misnomer. They actually do have to hit lightspeed before entering hyperspace. I assume this is from the same people who said TIE Fighter "wings" are solar panels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Furbag@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Hmm, I suppose you're right. I don't know why sci-fi purists are okay with that explanation when logically nothing can move faster than the speed of light. I've seen more debate over whether a blaster is a laser weapon or a plasma weapon. I guess they had a hard time reconciling the line from Han about how the Falcon does "Point five past light speed". At this point, I've accepted that hyperspace and FTL travel in Star Wars is basically just the wild west and nobody is trying to clarify how any of it actually works, they just want to have cool scenes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Star Wars tech manuals say it's not a misnomer. They actually do have to hit lightspeed before entering hyperspace. I assume this is from the same people who said TIE Fighter "wings" are solar panels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Furbag@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Hmm, I suppose you're right. I don't know why sci-fi purists are okay with that explanation when logically nothing can move faster than the speed of light. I've seen more debate over whether a blaster is a laser weapon or a plasma weapon. I guess they had a hard time reconciling the line from Han about how the Falcon does "Point five past light speed". At this point, I've accepted that hyperspace and FTL travel in Star Wars is basically just the wild west and nobody is trying to clarify how any of it actually works, they just want to have cool scenes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Hmm, I suppose you're right. I don't know why sci-fi purists are okay with that explanation when logically nothing can move faster than the speed of light. I've seen more debate over whether a blaster is a laser weapon or a plasma weapon. I guess they had a hard time reconciling the line from Han about how the Falcon does "Point five past light speed". At this point, I've accepted that hyperspace and FTL travel in Star Wars is basically just the wild west and nobody is trying to clarify how any of it actually works, they just want to have cool scenes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) You also can't leave or enter the galaxy Star Wars takes place in, except for a small perforation called Vector Prime. There's a galactic barrier in place that causes hyperspace to just kinda...stop working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] graymess@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's the most interesting bit of Star Wars lore I've heard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago It's Legends, mind you. New canon is more or less the same, but it's a calculation problem rather than a specific gateway out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That makes it consistent with Trek because TOS has a galactic barrier. Maybe they're the same universe. After all StarWars is a galaxy far far away. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] graymess@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's the most interesting bit of Star Wars lore I've heard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago It's Legends, mind you. New canon is more or less the same, but it's a calculation problem rather than a specific gateway out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago It's Legends, mind you. New canon is more or less the same, but it's a calculation problem rather than a specific gateway out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That makes it consistent with Trek because TOS has a galactic barrier. Maybe they're the same universe. After all StarWars is a galaxy far far away. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago But nothing beats Discovery's mushroom drive (incidentally that's also what the writers had before writing it). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lost_Faith@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wanna make your own hyper space jump not using hyper space lanes? Bring one of the talented young ladies of Thrawns species, you will be fine until said young lady is no longer young permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago I love that they cornered themselves in by calling them "skywalkers." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago I love that they cornered themselves in by calling them "skywalkers." permalink fedilink source parent