Jellyfin: The Free Software Media System

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago* (5 children)

Do not use AV1 or at least don't use it as of now as it isn't supported my most devices. I think there is exactly one phone that supports it as of now

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago

I know the nVidia Shield doesn't have it, and I'm not replacing that any time soon.

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[–] five82@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago*

I’m switching to AV1. But I’ve also been following its progress for years and understand the benefits and drawbacks. I wouldn’t recommend blindly jumping in if you’re new.

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[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago

Eh, Chromecast has AV1 and so do some smart TVs already. If that is your primary watching platform, encode away in AV1 and get an Arc A380 for the rest. It will also massively decrease encoding times.

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[–] Shimitar@feddit.it 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Untrue, all my devices support av1 at this point, so that's only your mileage.

I am happy with av1 and its awesome space savings over h264.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Over h264 sure, but h265? Hardly worth it for me.

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[–] Shimitar@feddit.it 2 points 2 years ago

In my experience the saving over h265 is still consistent and given that hardware h265 is less common that av1 on new devices, from h264 there is no need to go h265 but directly to av1 is better if you need to do the job.

Keep h264 otherwise.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago*

I'm not sure what devices you have but if they were made before 2023 you likely are using software decoding.

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[–] brdweb@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

av1 is going to be super niche and never fully adopted, just like ogg was for audio. h264/265 will be the main thing going for years and is just fine.

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[–] Shimitar@feddit.it 4 points 2 years ago

Are you aware that all android devices with A14 have av1 support as a requirement?

Also Apple is adding that, and amazon sticks already support av1 natively.

Said that, indeed h264 is and will be the safest and most supported choice for a very long time.

As 265 goes, not so sure.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

I doubt it. In a decade its probably going to be the standard. It just takes time for devices to support it.

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[–] clemensg@digitalcourage.social 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

A lot of newer Android-TV-Settop-Boxes are ready for AV1, for example products from Orbsmart.de like my Orbsmart S87L.
On that box is Kodi preinstalled and you can install everything from android-stores, also the Jellybin-client.

Don't forget: Jellybin is a very good open-source-software, but a client-server-system. So you need Hardware for the server-software.

#Jellyfin #Kodi #Orbsmart #AndroidTV #Settopbox #AV1

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

*Jellyfin

My point is that H264 is well supported everywhere so I personally am in no hurry to switch. Non of my devices support AV1 so it is a waste of my time for the most part.

What's worse is when I first started a bunch of people recommended AV1 which lead to Jellyfin not working.

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[–] brdweb@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago

And you're the norm, not the exception. Too many people choose to evangelize instead of looking at real-world use cases for the majority. I used to use Nvidia boxes around the house with Kodi. It worked but my wife and kids sure thought it was a pain in the rear often enough that it made it a pain for me too.

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[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

You also need hardware behind the client, for it being able to do hardware decoding. Unless you want the server to constantly transcode everything you watch, for all phones and PC clients..

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[–] MrPoopbutt@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

You don't necessarily need to shrink them, but you can.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago

You should as storage is expensive and is slows down performance to do more reads.

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[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago

Worth noting that AV1 is less compatible with older devices. My old Samsung TV, for instance, refuses to play them. It can’t DirectPlay AV1, so the server tries to transcode. But even when transcoding, the stream still fails. If you have an older smart TV, you may want to stick with h264 for compatibility reasons.

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[–] jlow@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

Also of you can stand the quality check out DVDs in charity shops or second hand online (Ebay etc). (And give away / resell after you made a "backup".)

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

To keep a copy of the media in Jellyfin you need to have a physical copy with the server. You also probably shouldn't share it with friends unless you are living together.

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[–] InternationalKnee69@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You may need to keep the physical copy for it to be legal or moral according to your own ethics but from a purely technical standpoint there is absolutely no need.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago

My technical needs are heavily dictated by legal obligations

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[–] jlow@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago

Yeah, fair, but depending on where you are you're already in illegal territory if you're circumventing DRM on the discs (e. g. Germany, I think).

(And how likely is it that I 1. get busted for pirating when not torrenting/downloading and 2. will make the copyright trolls believe me that I actually legally bought this movie at a charity shop five years ago? Has that ever hapenend?)

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[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What do you mean by "safe media"?

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[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I’m guessing he means how to sail the high seas without getting scurvy if you know what I mean

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[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Drink lots of water and eat your fruits and veggies of course!

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[–] kernelle@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Vitamin Sea ^I'll see myself out^

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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Where I don't have to throw my PC out afterwards due to virus and malware.

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[–] stankmut@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

When looking for media online, you pretty much just need a good adblocker and the sense not to run any random executables.

The media files themselves are very unlikely to have malware attached. They would need to exploit a bug in the specific video player you are using and then exploit another bug in your OS to get admin privileges before doing any real damage. It's pretty much just theoretical. Keep your stuff up to date and don't worry about it.

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[–] cuzit@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

It’s worth mentioning that the biggest concern, depending on your country, is getting in trouble with your ISP. That’s where a VPN comes to play.

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[–] brdweb@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Only if you torrent. Newsgroups still work wonders!

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

The good old Arr Stack is worth looking into.

Radarr (movies), Sonarr (TV), Prowlarr (for finding things), Bazarr (if you're in the subtitles gang, but most newer rips already contain it), VPN (to keep out nosey lawyers).

Only the VPN costs money, and it may be optional depending on where you are.

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[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago

That doesn't really resolve the problem of is the media safe.

From a cybersecurity standpoint you should be validating the mime type of the media at a minimum (The actual magic number, not the extension). And running it through ClamAV as well, ideally, before it's released to your media library.

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[–] evulhotdog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You may be better off using streamio, torrentio (a plugin for streamio,) and real-debrid.

It’s a bit more straight forward and doesn’t involve all the setup of downloading, organizing, and hosting the media.